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Room thermostats with KNX communications
RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN
Basic Documentation
Edition: 7.0
CE1P3191en
2018-07-03
Building Technologies

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  • Page 1 Room thermostats with KNX communications RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation Edition: 7.0 CE1P3191en 2018-07-03 Building Technologies...

  • Page 2: Table Of Contents

    3.6.5 2-pipe fan coil unit with radiator or floor heating ..........52 3.6.6 4-pipe fan coil unit ..................53 3.6.7 4-pipe fan coil unit with electric heater (RDG100KN) ........56 3.6.8 2-pipe/2-stage heating or cooling ..............58 3.6.9 Chilled/heated ceiling and radiator applications ..........60 3.6.10...
  • Page 3 Relay functions (RDG165KN) ..............121 6.3.3 Swap function and/or fan in the 2 stage (RDG165KN) ....... 122 Mechanical design ..................125 General ......................125 Dimensions ....................... 125 Technical data ................... 126 3 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 4: About This Document

    RXB/RXL, Basic Documentation XLS template Planning and commissioning protocol, in HIT communication Synco 700 CE1N3122 RMB795B central control unit, Data Sheet [20] CE1P3122 RMB795B central control unit, Basic Documentation 4 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 5: Before You Start

    Before you start 1.3.1 Copyright This document may be duplicated and distributed only with the express permission of Siemens, and may be passed only to authorized persons or companies with the required technical knowledge. 1.3.2 Quality assurance This document was prepared with great care.

  • Page 6: Target Audience, Prerequisites

    The communication objects of the RDG1..KN works partly in S-Mode, partly in LTE-Mode, and partly in both. These objects are described accordingly. A list of the parameters is shown in 3.14. 6 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 7: Summary

    · 2-pipe system with electric heater · 2-pipe system and radiator/floor heating · 4-pipe system · 4-pipe system with electric heater (RDG100KN) · 2-stage heating or cooling system · 4-pipe system with combi valve (PICV) and a 6-port ball valve as changeover (RDG160KN SW version V2.04, Index J)
  • Page 8 · Enabling fan output only in the 2 stage (RDG165KN) · Control 6-port ball valve for chilled and heated ceiling, DC 0…10V, DC 2…10 V and inverted signals DC 10…0V, DC 10…2 V (RDG160KN) 8 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 9 · Time scheduling and central control of setpoints via KNX bus · Control of Economy setpoints via KNX bus (RDG16..KN) · Energy supply optimization via energy demand signal with a Synco RMB795B central control unit 9 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 10: Integration Via Knx Bus

    KNX TP1 (RF function is not available on the room thermostats). The ETS engineering tool is required for integration. 10 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 11 Interface for ACS RXB, RXL Room controllers Room unit for RXB/RXL room controllers The RDG.. KNX thermostats can be integrated into the Siemens building Desigo and third-party automation and control systems (BACS) Desigo/Apogee or into third-party systems systems. Either S-Mode (group addressing) or individual addressing can be used for integration.

  • Page 12: Equipment Combinations

    Electrical actuator, 3-position 4861 SSD31.. (for small valve 5 mm) Electromotoric actuator, 3-position 4581 SAS31.. (for valves 5.5 mm) Rotary actuators for ball valves 4657 GDB331.9E 3-position 12 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 13: Accessories

    For more information about parallel operation and the maximum number of actuators Note that can be used, refer to the Data Sheets of the selected type of actuator and the following list: Maximum number of actuators in parallel on the RDG100KN: · 6 SS..31.. actuators (3-position) ·...

  • Page 14: Functions

    The switching differential or proportional band is 2 K for heating mode and 1 K for cooling mode (P30 and P31). The integral action time for modulating PI control is adjustable via P35 (factory setting: 5 minutes on RDG100KN/45 minutes on RDG16..KN). The display shows the acquired room temperature or the Comfort setpoint, selecta- Display ble via P06.

  • Page 15: Operating Modes

    – an operating mode switchover contact on RDG100KN (e.g. keycard contact presence detector, window contact) is active, "Window state" is sent to RDG100KN via bus, e.g. from a KNX switch or a KNX Room operating mode: presence detector (P02 is irrelevant).

  • Page 16: Different Ways To Influence The Operating Mode

    ƒ "Window state" via "Window state" sent via bus has the same effect as the local operating mode switchover contact (RDG100KN) or local window contact (RDG16..KN). Note: Only one input source must be used, either local input X1/X2/D1or KNX bus.
  • Page 17 Comfort mode can be temporarily extended (see below) à à à · Switching manually between 3 modes à à · Suited for homes and rooms where manual switching to Economy mode is desired 17 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 18 X2 or digital input D1 (set P38, P40 or P42 to 10) or the occupancy is sent via bus from a KNX presence detector (only one input source must be used, either local input X1/X2/D1 or KNX bus) 18 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 19 · Extend presence: 0:00…+9:30 in steps of 30 minutes; the symbol appears · Extend absence: 0:00…–9:30 in steps of 30 minutes; the symbol appears During the extended presence/absence period, the sandglass symbol appears. 19 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 20 Auto, Comfort or Economy Extension Comfort Auto P02 = 2 à Auto, Comfort or Economy Absence Economy Auto Extension/absence function is not available in Protection mode. Note 20 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 21: Communication Examples

    Comfort me schedule Pre-Comfort Economy Protection (holidays or special days) Window Window open contact Room 1 Window closed Comfort Actual room operating mode Room 1 Economy Protection 21 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 22 (holidays or special days) Operating mode button on the Pressed thermostat Window open Window contact Room 2 Window closed Comfort Actual room operating mode Room 2 Economy Protection 22 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 23 Economy Protection (holidays or special days) Presence Occupied detector Unoccupied Window contact Window open Room 3 Window closed Comfort Actual room operating mode Economy Room 3 Protection 23 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 24: Room Temperature Setpoints

    P10 Example Cooling setpoint adjustable: 25…40 °C Heating setpoint adjustable: 5…21 °C 24 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 25 The Economy setpoints (P11, P12) are accessible at the Service level; the Protection setpoints (P65, P66) are accessible at the Expert level. 25 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 26: Setting And Adjusting Setpoints

    The current setpoint (used by the thermostat for temperature control) is available K N X on the bus for use in the central control unit. Current setpoint 26 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 27 RDG16..KN: On RMB SW Version >= 2.0, the circumstances under which the controller sends out the setpoints can be defined. Refer to CE1P3122 [20] for "Setpoint priority" and "Setpoint Master" functions RDG100KN: The local setpoints are always overridden 27 / 132 Siemens...

  • Page 28: Applications Overview

    · Use P46/P47 to change the valve actuator output from DC (factory setting) to On/Off · Use DIP switch 4 to change the fan output from DC (factory setting) to 3-speed 28 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 29: Applications For Fan Coil Systems

    Product no. Control outputs RDG100KN On/Off, PWM, 3-position 3-speed, 1-speed RDG16..KN DC 0...10 V 3-speed, 1-speed, DC (B1) 0...10 V On/Off DC 0...10 V Using RDG160KN (version V2.04) 29 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 30: Applications For Universal Systems

    Return air temperature sensor or external room temperature sensor (optional) Changeover sensor (optional) Product no. Control outputs RDG100KN On/Off, PWM, 3-position RDG16..KN On/Off, DC 0...10 V Using RDG160KN (version V1.14) 30 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 31: Applications For Heat Pump Systems (Rdg16

    (optional) Output Y20/Q2: Cooling only (heating/cooling) YE Electric heater D3 Dewpoint sensor Product no. Control outputs RDG16..KN On/Off, DC 0...10 V Disabled, DC 0...10 V 31 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 32: Additional Functions

    It stays in cooling mode until the temperature rises above 28 °C (P37) · If the water temperature is between the 2 changeover points immediately after power-up (inside the hysteresis), the thermostat starts in the previous mode 32 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 33 (e.g. in empty apartments or shops) in Economy mode by setting P61, in moisture order to avoid damage from moisture due to lack of air circulation. Refer to "Fan kick" function in 3.8. 33 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 34 External temp. sensor External temp. sensor Not active 10...50 C Built-in sensor Built-in sensor Not active Built-in sensor + limit by 10…50 C Built-in sensor Active external sensor 34 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 35 K N X "Condensation in room" is sent via bus. Fault state The input must be commissioned accordingly (P38, P40 and P42). Fault information See 3.9. 35 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 36 If the equipment requests fan operation only in the 2 stage (heating and/or cooling), see 3.8 to set up the fan function (fan in the 2 stage) · For application examples, see 6.3.3 36 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 37 · Chilled/heated ceiling and radiator · 4 pipe · H/C ceiling with PICV and 6- port ball valve · 4-pipe with PICV and 6- port as changeover ball valve as changeover 37 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 38: Qx Relay Switching Functions (Rdg16

    To reduce wear and tear on HVAC equipment, the minimum output On/Off time of the Qx relay output can be adjusted (1…20 minutes) via P48 and P49. The factory setting is 1 minute. 38 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 39 When the operating mode is changed from Comfort to Economy or Protection, the Note relay contact remains energized until the end of the minimum on time set via P48. 39 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 40: Humidity Control (Rdg165Kn Only)

    Setpoint low range is limited by P21. S-Mode objects for the humidity setpoint are available when the parameter "Humidity setpoints" is set to as group object in ETS. 40 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 41 The current of the external DC – On/Off converter should not exceed the maximum Note output current of the Y50 (max. 5 mA). We recommend using the converter from Titan (single relay control (IO/1RM) at 3 mA input current). 41 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 42 (P33) must be bigger than the maximum shifting temperature setpoint (P76), in order to avoid changeover between heating and cooling sequences in case of fast humidity changes in the room. 42 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 43: Master / Slave In Knx S-Mode

    The master then sets the slave to Protection as long as at least one window is open. The new extended function further reduces energy and investment costs. 43 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 44 The master and slave function must be selected on RDG160KN via ETS. Setting master / slave (SW version 2.04). Object “[48] Effective application mode” is visible, if the thermostat operates as the master (default setting). 44 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 45 Window state” of the slaves and master. The function ensures that information exchange on window states is synchronized and correct between master and slaves. See 3.11.5. 45 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 46: Control Sequences

    4-pipe automatic changeover (P01 = 3) means swapping the control outputs according to a heating/cooling sensor or remote switch ("main and secondary" application), see 3.6.6. For RDG160KN (SW version V1.14) For the relationship between setpoints and sequences, see 3.6.12. 46 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 47: Application Mode

    Cooling Cooling Heat (1), (2), (8) Heating Heating Cooling Heating Heating Cooling Cool (3), (5) Cooling Cooling Night purge (4), Heating Heating Fan only (9) Cooling Cooling 47 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 48 / slave bound to the KNX object [31] application mode of the slaves to control the function (RDG160KN sequence, either heating or cooling, of all thermostats. SW V2.04) 48 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 49: 2-Pipe Fan Coil Unit

    Setting sequence and control outputs See 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. Parameter P78 (RDG160KN SW version 2.04) sets the heating flow limitation Note when using a PICV. See 3.5. 49 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 50: 2-Pipe Fan Coil Unit With Electric Heater

    The thermostat compensates the temperature if the rated power of the electric heating is entered at P45. Factory setting P45: 0.0 kW, setting range: 0.0…1.2 kW. 50 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 51 Setting sequence and control outputs See 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. Note Parameter P78 (RDG160KN SW version 2.04) sets the heating flow limitation when using a PICV. See 3.5. 51 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 52: 2-Pipe Fan Coil Unit With Radiator Or Floor Heating

    Setting sequence and control outputs See 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. Parameter P78 (RDG160KN SW version 2.04) sets the heating flow limitation Note when using a PICV. See 3.5. 52 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 53: 4-Pipe Fan Coil Unit

    · The thermostat assumes winter operation when B2 > P37 (factory setting 28 °C) · The thermostat assumes summer operation when B2 < P36 (factory setting 16 °C) 53 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 54 Proportional band "Cooling" (P31) Dead zone (P33) The diagrams only show the PI thermostat’s proportional part. Note Setting sequence and control outputs See 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. 54 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 55 The connection diagram for application P01=6 with PICV and 6-port ball valve as changeover is available in 6.2. 55 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 56: 4-Pipe Fan Coil Unit With Electric Heater (Rdg100Kn)

    3.6.7 4-pipe fan coil unit with electric heater (RDG100KN) Heating and cooling with On 4-pipe applications with electric heater, the thermostat controls 2 valves in auxiliary heater heating and cooling mode by manual selection, heating and cooling mode with automatic changeover, heating only, or cooling only plus an auxiliary electric heater.
  • Page 57 See 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. · YH can only be On/Off or PWM Notes · YC can be On/Off, PWM or 3-position · YE can only be On/Off 57 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 58: 2-Pipe/2-Stage Heating Or Cooling

    Room temperature SDH Switching differential "Heating" (P30) Room temperature setpoint SDC Switching differential "Cooling" (P31) YHC1 Control command "Stage 1" Setpoint differential (P34) YHC2 Control command "Stage 2" 58 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 59 / cooling demand is requested. Set the heating flow limitation function with parameter P78 (RDG160KN SW Note version 1.18) when using a PICV on this application. See 3.5. 59 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 60: Chilled/Heated Ceiling And Radiator Applications

    ( \ / ) 4-pipe 3.6.6 Chilled/heated ceiling, 2-stage H + H ( \ \ ) 2-stage heating or cooling 3.6.8 C + C ( / / ) 60 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 61 When the thermostat is set with P01=5, the fan control will be set as disable and Fan control cannot be changed. The parameter P52 (Fan control) is set to 0 and cannot be change 61 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 62 T[ ] Room temperature DC 0…10 V signal Room temperature setpoint Control command "Valve" (heating) Control command "Valve" (cooling) Flow limitation function for heating only (SW version V2.04) 62 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 63 The relay Q2 is energized when “Cooling sequence active” (P73= 6, fixed, cannot be changed) Wiring diagram of the application P01=6 H/C; ceiling with PICV and 6-port ball valve as changeover is available chapter 6.2 63 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 64: Compressor Applications (Rdg16

    · Control outputs On/Off: P46 = 1 (V1) P47 = 1 (V2) (ECM/DC fan only) Control outputs DC 0...10 V: P46 = 2 (V1) P47 = 2 (V2) 64 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 65: Applications With External Aqr Sensor Or Qmx Room Operator Unit (Rdg165Kn)

    Default setting Transmit indicates that the RDG165KN provides the local room temperature and relative humidity over the bus. One sensor can deliver data to several thermostats. 65 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 66: Setpoints And Sequences

    = setpoint heating in Economy or Protection mode HeatEco/Prot = setpoint cooling in Economy or Protection mode CoolEco/Prot YR = radiator sequence YE = electric heater sequence 66 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 67 W = setpoint in Comfort mode = heating setpoint for Economy or Protection mode HeatEco/Prot = cooling setpoint for Economy or Protection mode CoolEco/Prot YE = electric heater sequence 67 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 68: Control Outputs

    3-position actuator. Cooling: Same with Y3 and Y4. control signal The factory setting for the actuator's running time is 150 seconds. It can be (RDG100KN only) 68 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 69 · The signal converter (SEM61.4) converts the DC 0...10 V signal to AC 24 V PDM pulses for the current valve · The current valve (SEA45.1) supplies the electric heater with pulsed current 69 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 70: P46/P47)

    DC 0…10 V or DC 2…10 V signal. for 6-port control ball With those 2 signals, it is possible to control Siemens valves as well as other valve (RDG160KN only) manufacturer DC 2…10 V valves.
  • Page 71 2-stage, cooling or heating Applications with DC 0…10 V 6-port valve ü H/C ceiling Available with product no.è *) Only available for one actuator **) RDG160KN with SW version V1.14 71 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 72 – Set the valve actuators to On/Off by setting P46 and/or P47 to 1 · For commissioning via tools, set all DIP switches to OFF. The control outputs need to be set via tools in this case 72 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 73: Control Output Configuration

    P15 (RDG16..KN: fan stage in dead zone) and P60 (fan kick). Factory setting for "Fan in the dead zone": · RDG100KN: Fan speed I : (P60 = 0) · RDG16..KN: Fan speed OFF: (P15 = 0, P60 = OFF) Only one fan output at one time is on, either Q1, Q2 or Q3.
  • Page 74 Switching range for fan "Cooling" (Table) Fan 3-speed switching point high (P55) ECM fan Fan 3-speed switching point med (P56) Fan_max Max. ECM fan speed (P55) Fan_min Min. ECM fan speed (P56) 74 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 75 OFF), either in the heating (RDG165KN) or cooling sequence. Example 1 The fan runs only in the 2 stage in the heating and cooling sequence (2-pipe and 2-stage application). 75 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 76 TR [°C] · The output for the 1 stage in heating mode is the 2 stage in cooling mode Notes · This function is available for DC/3-speed/1-speed fans 76 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 77 The fan speed in the dead zone (in Comfort mode) can be set via P15 (Service Fan operation in dead level) according to customer preference. zone P15 (RDG16..KN) 77 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 78 To let the heating/cooling coil reach its temperature, the fan start can be delayed by Fan start delay a time period set via P67. RDG100KN SW version <= 1.24: Note Function available for On/Off control outputs only. Fan control is set to disable by default, if the thermostat is set with P01=6. It can,...

  • Page 79: Multifunctional Input, Digital Input

    X1, X2 or D1. See also 3.2. Dewpoint Digital input for a dewpoint sensor to detect monitor condensation. Cooling is stopped if condensation occurs. 79 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 80 · For inputs X1, X2, or D1, one physical switch can be used for up to 20 Notes thermostats (parallel connection) Caution! DO NOT mix X1/X2 (mains potential on RDG100KN) and D1. · For sensors on inputs X1, X2, or D1, the maximum cable length is 80 m 80 / 132...

  • Page 81: Handling Faults

    Logical Tag Extended mode, for easy engineering, is used in conjunction with Synco. 3.11.1 S-Mode This mode corresponds to KNX communications. Connections are established via ETS by assigning communication objects to group addresses. 81 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 82: Lte-Mode

    · LTE-Mode data points and settings are described in the Synco Application Manual [12] · To engineer and commission a specific system, use the Synco700 planning and commissioning protocol (XLS table in HIT, [7]) 82 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 83: Zone Addressing In Lte-Mode (In Conjunction With Synco)

    "Subzone" of "Geographical zone" is fixed at 1 (not adjustable). Note The device sends and receives LTE communication signals only if the zone address is valid (not OSV = not out of service). 83 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 84 = ---, 1...31 Outside temperature received in outside temperature zone 31 can be Outside temperature displayed on the room thermostat when commissioned accordingly zone (P07 = 2). Zone 84 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 85: Example Of Heating And Cooling Demand Zone

    · This type of application can also be applied to refrigeration distribution zones Notes · If no 2-pipe fan coil unit is used, heat and refrigeration demand signals are sent simultaneously to the primary plant 85 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 86: Send Heartbeat And Receive Timeout

    Room operating mode Transmit Close Window state [20] For RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN, RDG400KN and RDG405KN Only available in S-Mode for RDG160KN (SW version V2.04) when set as slave Individual zones can also be disabled (out of service) via control parameter if they Reducing the bus load are not being used.

  • Page 87: Fault Function On Knx

    "Fault transmission" (disable/enable). Fault transmission This has no impact on the local display of faults. After a timeout of 48 hours, the sending of faults is automatically enabled again. 87 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 88: Communication Objects (S-Mode)

    Only on RDG16...KN Only on RDG165KN As input / output object only on RDG160KN (SW version V2.04) Only on RDG160KN (SW version V2.04) 3.12.2 Description of communication objects 88 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 89 Switch the HVAC mode to either Comfort, Economy or Protection E.g. 2-pipe with electric heater application: Output of the electric mode. heater. Comfort 20.102 Room operating Economy 1 Byte mode: State Protection 89 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 90 0…100% 5.001 Fan output 8 bit Indicates the current fan speed as a value 0...100% Speed Fan output (physical KNX value) (84 ) (186) 100% (255) 90 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 91 The Economy setpoint is stored in EEPROM. The service life of the EEPROM depends on the number of write cycles. Never write this communication object cyclically. 9.007 Room humidity 2 Byte [%r.h.] 91 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 92: Communication Objects (Lte-Mode)

    Fault transmission Fault information Fault text Outside air temp. zone Outside temperature fixed at 31 Only on RDG165KN Only output communication object available for RDG160KN and RDG100KN 92 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 93: Control Parameters

    The factory setting for the control parameters can be reloaded via P71, by Reset parameters changing the value to ON. Confirm the change by pressing the right button. Then 8888 displays during reloading. 93 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 94: Parameter Setting/Download Via Tool

    (for RDG165KN) and version V10.02.080 or higher (for RDG160KN with SW version V1.14) Connecting a KNX commissioning/operating tool to the RDG1..KN is described in Connecting a KNX tool 4.2. 94 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 95: Parameters Of The Service Level

    Setpoint humidity high OFF, 20…90% Setpoint humidity low OFF, 20…90% ü ü Calibration humidity -10...0…10% Appl. = applications Parameter display depends on selected application and function. Note 95 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 96: Parameters Of The Expert Level With Diagnostics And Test

    Actuator running time Y3/Y4 150 s 20…300 s ü Power of electric heater on Q2 (for 0 kW 0.0 ….. 1.2 kW ü ü adaptive temperature compensation) 96 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 97 OFF: Disabled ü ü ü On time minimum fan 2 min 1...6 min ü ü ü Periodic fan kick Comfort RDG100KN 0…89 min, OFF RDG16..KN Periodic fan kick Eco 0…359 min, OFF ü ü ü 97 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation...
  • Page 98 P45: To compensate for heat dissipation of the eletric heater relay in Notes RDG16..KN · P46/P47: Setting to On/Off or 3-position is configured via DIP switches 4 and 5 98 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 99 OPE = output Q3 forced opening CLO = output Q3 forced closing This parameter can only be quit when the setting is back at "---". Press the left button to escape 99 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 100: Handling

    Consider overall maximum contact sensing current for switch rating · Inputs X1-M and X2-M carry mains potential (RDG100KN only). Sensor cables must be suited for AC 230 V mains voltage · Selectable relay function (RDG16..KN): See 3.14.4 ·...

  • Page 101: Commissioning

    Connect the Synco ACS or ETS tools to the KNX bus cable at any point for Connecting tools commissioning: ACS and ETS require an interface: – RS232 KNX interface (e.g. Siemens N148/UP146/UP152) – OCI700, OCI702 USB-KNX interface An external KNX bus power supply is required if an RDG1..KN is connected Note directly to a tool (ACS or ETS) via KNX interface.
  • Page 102 Each device has a unique KNX serial number at the rear. An additional sticker with KNX serial number the same KNX serial number is enclosed in the packaging box. This sticker is intended for installers for documentation purposes. 102 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 103: Operation

    2 seconds until the temperature disappears, then turn rotary knob counterclockwise min. ½ revolution Press left and right button simultane- Enter (KNX) programming mode. ously for 6 seconds 103 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 104 "Temporary timer" function; displays when Relative humidity (RDG165KN only) operating mode is temporarily extended (extended presence or absence) Confirmation of parameters Indicates that room temperature is displayed Automatic fan 104 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 105: Remote Operation

    Directive 2012/19/EU and may not be disposed of as domestic waste. · Dispose of the device via the channels provided for this purpose · Comply with all local and currently applicable laws and regulations 105 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 106: Supported Knx Tools

    · ETS 4 or higher version is used to assign the communication objects to group Notes addresses (S-Mode) · ETS 4 or higher version is used to download the application and parameters · The humidity parameters are only available in RDG165KN 106 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 107 Select master and slave function via ETS on RDG160KN. Setting master / slave RDG160KN SW 2.04 Comfort setpoint: Select Receive and transmit need to use object [23] Room temperature: Comfort setpoint 107 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 108: Acs Tool

    To start the parameter settings, select Applications à Plant engineering. The application and control parameters can be adjusted and downloaded. Column Line no. contains the parameter number as displayed in the parameter table. See 3.14. 108 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 109 The thermostat does not accept changes that are outside its range. This can be observed online by the fact that a changed value jumps back to the original value. Use the ranges described in the parameter tables in 3.14. 109 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 110: Operation And Monitoring With Acs

    To change a control parameter, double click the parameter under Standard popcard to make the settings. · Make sure you have logged on with sufficient access right. Notes · Only control parameters can be changed, no application! 110 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 111 Chilled/heated ceiling Chilled ceiling – Control sequence: Changeover – Control sequence: Cooling only – Fan operation: Disabled (P52 = 0) – Fan operation: Disabled (P52 = 0) 111 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 112 – Fan operation: Disabled (P52=0) (P52 <> 0) /C ceiling with 6-port control ball valve – Control sequence: P01 = 5 – Fan operation: Disabled (P52 = 0) 112 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 113 – Control sequence: Auto c/o (P01 = 3) – Control sequence: Auto c/o (P01 = 3) – Fan operation: Enabled (P52 <> 0) – Fan operation: Disabled (P52 = 0) 113 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 114: Operation And Monitoring With Ozw772

    0 = no application 1 = 2-pipe 2 = 2-pipe and electric heater 3 = 2-pipe and radiator 4 = 4-pipe 5 = 2-stage 6 = 4-pipe and electric heater 114 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 115: Connection

    Y10, Y20 Control outputs "Valve" DC 0...10 V (RDG16..KN) Control output "Fan" DC 0...10 V (RDG16..KN) KNX data + KNX data – 115 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 116: Connection Diagrams

    Heating valve actuator temperature, changeover sensor, Cooling valve actuator etc.) Heating/cooling valve actuator KNX data + YHC1/YHC2 stage CE– KNX data – Radiator valve actuator Electric heater 116 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 117 Cooling valve actuator KNX data + Heating/cooling valve actuator CE– KNX data – Radiator valve actuator De-Humidifier RDG165KN only YHC1/YHC2 stage Q3=On/Off, Y50=0…10V, see 6.3.1 C1/C2 Compressor 1 stage 117 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 118: Application Examples (Rdg165Kn)

    P76 = 3 K (factory setting) · Valve P46 = 2 (factory setting) Release contact · Relay function P74 = 7 (dehumidifier) for min. and max. ratings 118 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 119 Temp. shift P76 = 3 K (factory setting) · Valves P46/47 = 1 Release contact · Relay function P74 = 7 (dehumidifier) for min. and max. ratings. 119 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 120 DC - On/Off converter · · Temp. shift P76 = 3 K (factory setting) Dehumidifier · Valve P46 = 2 (factory setting) Release contact for min. and max. ratings 120 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 121: Relay Functions (Rdg165Kn)

    - ON in demand: P72 = 2 Release contact - Energized mode: Heating P73 = 5 - Energized mode: Cooling P73 = 6 for min. and max. ratings 121 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 122: Nd Stage (Rdg165Kn)

    Valve P46 = 2 (floor) DC valve floor · · Valve P47 = 2 (fan coil unit) DC valve fan coil units for min. and max. ratings 122 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 123 Valve P46 = 2 (panel) DC valve panel · · Valve P47 = 4 (fan coil unit) DC valve fan coil unit for min. and max. ratings 123 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 124 Valve P46 = 1 (equipment 1) On/Off valve (equipment 1) · · Valve P47 = 3 (equipment 2) On/Off valve (equipment 2) for min. and max. ratings 124 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 125: Mechanical Design

    The housing engages in the mounting plate and is secured with 2 screws. 1. Operating mode button/Esc 2. Fan mode button/OK 3. Rotary knob to adjust setpoints and parameters For operation, see 4.3. Dimensions Dimensions in mm 125 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

  • Page 126: Technical Data

    External temperature sensor, heating/cooling X1: P38 changeover sensor, operating mode switchover X2: P40 contact, dewpoint monitor contact, enable electric D1: P42 heater contact, fault contact, monitoring input 126 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 127 X1: P38 changeover sensor, operating mode switchover X2: P40 contact, Dewpoint monitor contact, enable electric D1: P42 heater contact, fault contact, monitoring input, supply air temperature, presence function 127 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 128 Electronic control type operation) AS/NZS 61000-6-3 RCM conformity (Emission) Safety class II as per EN60730 Pollution class Normal Degree of protection of housing IP30 as per EN60529 128 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 129 L, N, Q1, Q2, Q3, Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 Housing front color RAL 9003 white Weight without/with packaging RDG100KN 0.270 kg/0.380 kg RDG16..KN 0.240 kg/0.320 kg The documents can be downloaded from http://siemens.com/bt/download. 129 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 130 Heating and cooling sequence ......46 Heating demand ..........86 DC 0...10 V fan ........... 75 Heating sequence ..........46 Heating/cooling changeover ....... 33, 79 DC 0...10 V valves ..........75 130 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 131 Parameter setting ..........93 Parameter setting via tool ........94 Zone addressing ..........83 Parameter settings in ACS ......108, 110 Parameter settings in ETS ........ 106 131 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...
  • Page 132 Siemens Switzerland Ltd Technical specifications and availability subject to change without notice. Building Technologies Division International Headquarters Theilerstrasse 1a CH-6300 Zug Tel: +41 58 724 2424 www.siemens.com/buildingtechnologies 132 / 132 Siemens RDG100KN, RDG160KN, RDG165KN Basic Documentation CE1P3191en Building Technologies 2018-07-03...

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