Texas Instruments TPS23755 User Manual

Texas Instruments TPS23755 User Manual

Poe powered devices debug guidelines

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PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines
This document provides the debug process for TI Power over Ethernet (PoE) Powered Device (PD) designs.
Most problems occur in the DC/DC design. PoE uses the IEEE802.3 standard that includes IC vendors
and end-equipment designs, resulting in strict requirements for PoE operation. However, there are no such
requirements on DC/DC design. Unfortunately, the complex nature of DC/DC design leaves less margin of error
than one might expect, yet many degrees of freedom in design choices. This combination allows errors to slip in
undetected that can result in designs that do not work or cause damage.
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Introduction.............................................................................................................................................................................2
2.1 Important PoE Signals.......................................................................................................................................................
2.2 Lab Equipment...................................................................................................................................................................
2.3 Measurement Techniques..................................................................................................................................................
2.4 Board Preparation..............................................................................................................................................................
3.1 Schematic Areas................................................................................................................................................................
4 Common Issues....................................................................................................................................................................
5 Conclusion............................................................................................................................................................................
Start-up..............................................................................................................................................................3
Waveform..................................................................................................................................................4
Section......................................................................................................................................................5
Figure 3-2. PoE IC Settings.........................................................................................................................................................
Figure 3-3. Input Filter.................................................................................................................................................................
Settings...................................................................................................................................................7
Figure 3-5. VCC Input Circuit for Active Clamp Forward.............................................................................................................
Figure 3-6. VCC Input Circuit for Primary-Side Regulation Flyback............................................................................................
Figure 3-7. VCC Input Circuit for Optocoupler Flyback...............................................................................................................
Figure 3-8. Primary Side Feedback PSR Flyback.......................................................................................................................
Figure 3-9. Primary Side Feedback Optocoupler Flyback...........................................................................................................
Figure 3-11. Primary Side MOSFET RCD Snubber...................................................................................................................
Figure 3-12. Secondary Side Diode Rectified Flyback..............................................................................................................
Figure 3-15. Secondary Side Driven Synchronous Flyback......................................................................................................
Figure 3-17. Output
Capacitance...............................................................................................................................................14
Figure 3-18. Secondary Side Optocoupler Feedback Network.................................................................................................
Figure 3-19. PoE Handshake....................................................................................................................................................
Figure 3-20. PoE DC/DC Start-up.............................................................................................................................................
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Waveform......................................................................................................................17
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  • Page 1: Table Of Contents

    Figure 3-21. Current Sense Switching Waveform........................17 Trademarks ® Sifos is a registered trademark of Sifos Technologies, Inc.. All trademarks are the property of their respective owners. SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 2: Introduction

    DC/DC, but not always. Another important signal is the secondary side ground. This is also the output ground. V is the output voltage of the DC/DC converter. PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 3: Lab Equipment

    Optimal pictures show at least one but not more than three switching periods. The less switching periods shown the more detail can be seen in a single period. SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 4: Board Preparation

    Taking these measures provide a sufficient start for debugging. PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 5: Narrowing Down The Problem Area

    1.00M 1.00M 1.00M 100V 100V 470pF 15.0k 100V TP11 232k 232k 232k 232k 330pF 330pF 330pF 330pF Figure 3-1. PoE Input Section SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 6: Figure 3-2. Poe Ic Settings

    VDD and RTN with large solder pads. The other components of the input filter help reduce input ripple (and thus output ripple). PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 7: Figure 3-3. Input Filter

    (if applicable), and so on. Not shown here is the LINUV input. The LINUV input sets the turn-on and turn-off DC/DC input voltage of the IC. Figure 3-4. DC/DC Pin Settings SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 8: Figure 3-5. Vcc Input Circuit For Active Clamp Forward

    Figure 3-6. VCC Input Circuit for Primary-Side Regulation Flyback Figure 3-7. VCC Input Circuit for Optocoupler Flyback PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 9: Figure 3-8. Primary Side Feedback Psr Flyback

    For a flyback, there is only one primary MOSFET. This MOSFET requires a gate drive. Sometimes a more robust gate drive, which includes a BJT, is required to turn the MOSFET off faster. All MOSFETs require a DRC clamp. SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 10: Figure 3-10. Primary Side Mosfets And Accompanying Components

    The current sense or CS resistor, helps set the output current limit. Figure 3-10. Primary Side MOSFETs and Accompanying Components (Flyback) PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 11: Figure 3-11. Primary Side Mosfet Rcd Snubber

    Diode flybacks are considered the easiest because they have the fewest parts. Diode flybacks consist of the output diode and accompanying snubber (typically RC). SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 12: Figure 3-12. Secondary Side Diode Rectified Flyback

    IC. Figure 3-13 through Figure 3-15 provide samples of gate drives and MOSFETs: Figure 3-13. Secondary Side Self Driven Synchronous Flyback A PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 13: Figure 3-14. Secondary Side Self Driven Synchronous Flyback B

    MOSFET because the VDS is in parallel with Vout. The red box is considered the series MOSFET because the VDS is in series with the power path. Note, the inductor is optional in flybacks but is required in ACFs. SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 14: Figure 3-16. Secondary Side Active Clamp

    TP13 VOUT TP12 TP11 5,6, 1,2,3 5V/5A 150nH CSD17577Q3A 1µF 330uF 220uF 100uF 100uF 100uF 100uF LDT1038-50R TP14 Figure 3-17. Output Capacitance PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 15: Narrowing Down The Area On Board

    Iout (sometimes) Note * Do not connect ground probes to both VSS and RTN at the same time. Figure 3-19. PoE Handshake SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 16: Figure 3-20. Poe Dc/Dc Start-Up

    CS pin does not exceed the CS threshold before full load is applied to the output. Check the transformer primary inductance, the CS resistor size, and the primary FET. See Figure 3-21 for a reference of the CS waveform. PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 17: Common Issues

    – The feedback system either does not have enough gain margin, phase margin, or something is installed improperly (broken or incorrect part) SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 18 Soft-Stop: TPS2373X Feature Explanation application note that discusses this situation at length. Common fixes include: – Increasing the amount of capacitance on VCC PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 19 – MOSFET or Diode selection: • Too slow • Too low of a Vds SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 20: Conclusion

    Many PoE PD issues are found in the schematic, which is a great place to start the debug process. PoE Powered Devices Debug Guidelines SLVAF74 – JULY 2021 Submit Document Feedback Copyright © 2021 Texas Instruments Incorporated...
  • Page 21 TI products. TI’s provision of these resources does not expand or otherwise alter TI’s applicable warranties or warranty disclaimers for TI products. TI objects to and rejects any additional or different terms you may have proposed. IMPORTANT NOTICE Mailing Address: Texas Instruments, Post Office Box 655303, Dallas, Texas 75265 Copyright © 2022, Texas Instruments Incorporated...

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