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Touchscreen flush-mount room thermostats with knx communications
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RDF800KN.., RDD810KN/NF
Touchscreen flush-mount
room thermostats with KNX communications
RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF
Basic documentation
CE1P3174en
2020-02-21
RDF800KN/VB
Smart Infrastructure

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  • Page 1 RDF800KN.., RDD810KN/NF RDF800KN/VB Touchscreen flush-mount room thermostats with KNX communications RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 2: Table Of Contents

    Heating (RDD810KN/NF only) ............. 43 Control outputs ..................44 3.7.1 Overview ..................... 44 3.7.2 Control outputs configuration (using the DIP switches or the tool) (RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB only) ............. 45 2 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure Contents 2020-02-21...
  • Page 3 Connection ..................84 Connection terminals ................84 Connection diagrams ................85 Mechanical design ................86 General ....................86 Dimensions ..................87 Technical data ..................90 3 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure Table of contents 2020-02-21...

  • Page 4: About This Document

    Handbook for Home and Building Control – Basic Principles (http://www.knx.org/knx-en/training/books-documentation/knx-association- books/index.php) Synco and KNX (see CE1N3127 KNX bus, Data Sheet www.siemens.com/synco) CE1P3127 Communication via the KNX bus for Synco 700, 900 and RXB/RXL, Basic Documentation XLS template in Planning and commissioning protocol,...

  • Page 5: Before You Start

    Before you start 1.3.1 Copyright This document may be duplicated and distributed only with the express permission of Siemens, and may be passed only to authorized persons or companies with the required technical knowledge. 1.3.2 Quality assurance This document was prepared with great care.

  • Page 6: Target Audience, Prerequisites

    S-mode, partly in LTE mode, and partly in both. These objects are described accordingly. A list of the parameters is shown in section 3.14. 6 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 7: Summary

    · Synco ACS · ETS · Local DIP switch and the HMI Heating using On/Off control outputs: Use of RDD810KN/NF · Floor heating/radiators · Wall-hung boilers 7 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 8 (enable, disable or depending on heating or cooling mode) · Purge function with 2-port valve in a 2-pipe changeover system · Reminder to clean fan filters (P62) 8 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 9: User Interface

    (KNX). Touch for 5 seconds to select parameter mode (Service/Expert level). Touch for 5 seconds 9 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 10: Integration With Knx Bus

    700 system and operate together in LTE mode. This extends the field of use of Synco for individual room control in conjunction with fan coil units, heating units, chilled ceilings and radiators. 10 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 11 Room controllers Room unit for RXB/RXL room controllers Desigo and third-party The KNX communicating devices can be integrated into the Siemens building systems automation and control systems (BACS) Desigo or third-party systems. For integration, you can use either S-mode (group addressing) or individual addressing.

  • Page 12: Equipment Combinations

    · Parallel operation of max 6 SS.. actuators (3-position) is possible. · Parallel operation of max 10 On/Off actuators is possible. · Parallel operation of SQS35 is not possible. 12 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 13: Accessories

    KNX power supply 160 mA 5WG1 125-1AB12 KNX power supply 320 mA 5WG1 125-1AB22 KNX power supply 640 mA See the dimensions of mounting frame on page 89. 13 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 14: Functions

    In LTE mode, the outdoor temperature can only be received in outdoor temperature zone 31. In S-mode, the corresponding communication object needs to be bound with a KNX sensor device. 14 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 15: Operating Modes

    Use +/– to change the Touch the operating mode between Comfort (ON), Economy (ECO) or Protection (OFF). Protection mode In Protection mode, the Screen Saver mode displays OFF: 15 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 16 The thermostat switches to Protection mode when... · OFF is selected using +/- after touching the icon · Protection is sent using the bus Room operating mode: Window state 16 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 17 · "Window state" is sent using the bus, e.g. from a KNX switch. See note Note: Refer to section 3.2.1 for details regarding the window contact and presence detector. 17 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 18: Influencing The Operating Mode

    Note: If the time scheduler switches from Comfort to Economy mode, but the presence detector is still active (room occupied), the thermostat continues to work in Comfort mode for the period of occupancy. 18 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 19 The contact can be connected to a multifunctional input X1, X2. Set P38 or P40 to 3. User operations are ineffective and OFF is displayed if the window contact is active. 19 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 20 If P68 (extend Comfort period) = 0, extended Comfort cannot be activated. Touch icon to switch the thermostat to Protection. icon and OFF flashes on the LCD. If the window contact is active, touch the 20 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 21: Communication Example

    8. At 20:00 the room is set to Protection according to the time scheduler. (8) 9. After this time, the occupancy detected by presence detector has no effect, as the central time switch sets the thermostat to Protection. (9) 21 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 22 Room operating Precomfort mode Economy Protection Presence Occupied detector Unoccupied Window open Window contact room 3 Window closed Comfort Effective room operating mode Economy room 3 Protection 22 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 23: Room Temperature Setpoints

    In cooling mode, the cooling setpoint is active and adjustable using +/-. – Switching from the heating setpoint to the cooling setpoint and vice-versa occurs when the room temperature reaches the adjusted limitation (P09 or 23 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 24 The Economy setpoints are accessible at the Service level (P11 or P12) or via tools (ACS or ETS). The Protection setpoints are accessible at the Expert level (P65 or P66). 24 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...

  • Page 25: Setting And Adjusting Setpoints

    · General notes: The supported communication objects are different in LTE mode and S-mode. · Making changes using the local HMI or tool have the same priority. 25 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 26: Applications Overview

    à Go to the setting mode and configure 2-pipe with 3- the basic control parameters 2P3P position output Note: For RDD810KN/NF, APP H displays after powering up. 26 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 27 Section 3.4.2 “Applications for universal systems (RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB only)”; · Section 3.4.3 “Applications for heat pump systems (RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB only)”; · Section 3.6.6 “Chilled/heated ceiling and radiator applications (RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB only)”. 27 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 28: Applications For Fan Coil Systems (Rdf800Kn

    B1 Return air temperature sensor or external room temperature sensor (optional) V2 Cooling valve actuator B2 Changeover sensor (optional) E1 Electric heater M1 1- or 3- speed fan 28 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 29 V1 Heating or heating/cooling valve actuator B1 Return air temperature sensor or external room temperature sensor (optional) V2 Cooling valve actuator B2 Changeover sensor (optional) E1 Electric heater D3 Dew point sensor 29 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 30: Applications For Heat Pump Systems (Rdf800Kn

    B1 Return air temperature sensor or external room Terminal Y1: Heating or heating/cooling temperature sensor (optional) Terminal Y2: for cooling (H&C) E1 Electric heater D3 Dew point sensor 30 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 31: Applications For Universal Systems (Rdf800Kn

    (pre-controlled by manual mixing valve) floor heating system Thermal reset limit thermostat Room thermostat Safety limit thermostat 2-port valve Circulating pump Mixing 3-port valve with manual adjustment Magnetic valve 31 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 32: Additional Functions

    By using an external switch for changeover, the operating action (P39 or P41) cannot be modified. · Contact open à heating mode · Contact closed à cooling mode 32 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 33 Up to 26 °C for long-time presence, up to 28 °C for short-time presence. Bathrooms: Up to 28 °C for long-time presence, up to 30 °C for short-time presence. 33 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...
  • Page 34 Buzzer The "Buzzer" function provides audio feedback when you touch the operating icons on the thermostat (see page 9). Enable or disable the “Buzzer” function via P16. 34 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 35: Control Sequences

    3.6.5: – 4-pipe manual changeover (P01 = 2) means activating either cooling or heating outputs. For the relation between setpoints and sequences, see section 3.6.8. 35 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 36: Application Mode

    The state (heating or cooling) of the thermostat can be monitored with the ACS tool (diagnostic value "Control sequence"). The last active mode is displayed when the thermostat is in the dead zone or when room temperature control is disabled. 36 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...
  • Page 37 The following diagram shows the value of the output as a function of the room temperature for a heating and cooling system: 1 = Heat 0 = Cool 100% Wheat = current heating setpoint Wcool = current cooling setpoint Wheat Wcool 37 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 38: 2-Pipe Fan Coil Unit (Rdf800Kn

    · The diagrams only show the PI thermostat’s proportional action. Notes: · For fan sequence see section 3.8. Setting the sequence Refer to sections 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. and the control outputs 38 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 39: 2-Pipe Fan Coil Unit With Electric Heater

    If "Enable electric heater" input uses the bus, the function must not be assigned to a local input X1 or X2. Caution An electric heater must always be protected by a safety limit thermostat! 39 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 40: Only)

    · For better temperature control performance with 2-position electric heater, we suggest you set the switching differential heating (P30) to 1 K. Setting the sequence Refer to sections 3.4, 3.6.1, and 3.7. and the control outputs 40 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 41: 4-Pipe Fan Coil Unit (Rdf800Kn

    (cooling only: disable electric heater using El H + C ( heater ( / ) P13) ( \ / ) Chilled ceiling and radiator H + C 4-pipe 3.6.5 41 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 42: Compressor Applications (Rdf800Kn

    HeatProt CoolProt HeatEco CoolEco Comfort mode Economy/Protection mode Application Heating Cooling Heating Cooling 2-pipe HeatEco/Prot CoolEco/Prot 2-pipe and electric heater CoolEco/Prot HeatEco/Prot HeatEco/Prot If P13 = ON 42 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 43: Heating (Rdd810Kn/Nf Only)

    Heating (RDD810KN/NF only) The RDD810KN/NF room thermostat controls the 2-position outputs in heating mode: T[°C] Room temperature Room temperature setpoint SDH Switching differential "Heating" (P30) Output signal for heating 43 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 44: Control Outputs

    The factory setting for the actuator's running time is 150 seconds. It can be adjusted via P44. The parameter is only visible if 3-position is selected via the DIP switches. 44 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...

  • Page 45: Control Outputs Configuration (Using The Dip Switches Or The Tool) (Rdf800Kn

    (see section 3.4). The DIP switches have no impact if the application is set up via tools. In this case, the control outputs need to be set with the ACS tool. 45 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...

  • Page 46: Fan Control (Rdf800Kn

    For this purpose, the fan command value must be enabled. Fan command value Enable fan command value Fan speed and mode can be monitored using the bus. Fan operation Fan stage 1/2/3 Fan output 46 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 47 In automatic mode, a dwelling time of 2 minutes (factory setting) is active. The fan on- time maintains each speed for at least 2 minutes before changing to the next speed. This minimum on-time can be adjusted from 1…6 minutes via P59. 47 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...
  • Page 48 In case of fan failure, the thermostat cannot protect the electric heater against CAUTION overtemperature. For this reason, the electric heater must be equipped with a Fan failure separate safety device (thermal cutout). 48 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 49 Comfort to Economy mode, and vice versa. Fan start delay To let the heating/cooling coil reach its temperature, the fan start can be delayed by a time period set via P67. 49 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 50: Multifunctional Input, Digital Input

    X1 or X2. See section 3.2.1. ü Dew point Digital input for a dew point sensor to monitor detect condensation. Cooling is stopped if condensation occurs. 50 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 51 Exception: 1 or 2 inputs can be configured as fault (6) or monitor input (7, 8). · X1 is factory-set to "Window contact" (3), X2 to "External sensor" (1). For more detailed information, refer to section 3.4. 51 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 52: Handling Faults

    When power returns, the thermostat reloads this data and continues to work in the same conditions as before. 52 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 53: Knx Communications

    Cool demand Boiler Heat distr zone 1 Heat distr zone 1 Heat demand Heat demand Sensor Outdoor temperature zone 31 Outdoor temperature zone 31 Outdoor temperature Outdoor temperature 53 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 54: Zone Addressing In Lte Mode (In Conjunction With Synco)

    · The "Subzone" of the "Geographical zone" is fixed to 1 (not adjustable). Notes: · The device will send and receive LTE communication signals only if the zone address is valid (not OSV = out of service). 54 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...
  • Page 55 The outdoor temperature is provided via KNX bus on zone 31. If available, it is zone displayed when the INFO page is selected Zone = fixed to 31 55 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 56: Example Of Heating And Cooling Demand Zone

    LTE mode/S-mode Fixed times are specified as follows: · Receive timeout: 31 minutes · Send heartbeat: 15 minutes 56 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 57: Startup

    Fault transmission is different in LTE mode and S-mode: S-mode LTE mode Fault state Alarm information (error code + internal information) Fault information (internal Alarm text (default text can be edited with ACS tool) information) 57 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 58 (disable/enable). This has no impact on the local display of faults. After a timeout of 48 hours, the forwarding of fault signals will automatically be enabled again. 58 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 59: Communication Objects (S-Mode)

    Input communication object. Output communication object. Input and output communication object. 8-bit and 1-bit object available. Select using parameter in ETS. Availability depends on selected application or function. 59 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 60: Rdd810Kn/Nf Overview

    Input communication object Output communication object Input & output communication object 8-bit and 1-bit object available, selectable by using parameter in the ETS Availability depending on selected application/function 60 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 61: Description Of Communication Objects

    Indicates the position of the heating actuator of the second stage. Switch the HVAC mode to either Comfort, Economy or Protection E.g. 2-pipe with electric heater application: Output of electric mode. heater. 61 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 62 Fan output (physical KNX value) (84 ) (186) 100% (255) Fan speed 1 1.001 Fan speed 2 1 bit Fan speed 3 Indicate the state of the relay outputs 62 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 63: Communication Objects (Lte Mode)

    Heating/cooling changeover Ref. distr. zone Cooling coil energy demand cooling coil Broadcast Fault transmission Fault information Fault text Outdoor air temp. zone fix 31 Outdoor temperature 63 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 64: Rdd810Kn/Nf Overview

    Setpoint shift heating Heating coil energy demand Heat distr. zone heating coil Broadcast Fault transmission Fault information Fault text Outdoor air temp. zone fix 31 Outdoor temperature 64 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 65: Control Parameters

    The “User level password” (P29) for entering the Service level and the “Installer level password” (P99) for entering the Expert level are not visible in the parameter list and cannot be modified by using the local HMI. 65 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en...

  • Page 66: Setting And Downloading Parameters Using The Tools

    ETS4 and ACS version 8.28 or higher. Connecting a KNX tool The connection of a KNX commissioning or operating tool to the RDF800KN../RDF800KN/VB/RDD810KN.. KNX room thermostats is described in section 4.2. 66 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 67: Service Level Parameters

    2 = low speed (Cooling only) ü ü Buzzer function 0: disabled 1: enabled Appl. = applications Note: Parameter display depends on the selected application and function. 67 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 68: Expert Level Parameters With Diagnostics And Test

    ü Flow temp limit floor heating OFF, 10...50 °C P38, ü Fan control 0 = disabled 1 = enabled 2 = heating only 3 = cooling only 68 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 69 For example, from line coupler or using the ACS tool. Type = geographical zone A.R.S. In RDF subzone = fixed value 1. Appl. = applications 69 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...
  • Page 70 CLO = output Y2 forced closing This parameter can only be exited when the setting is back at "---". Touch + and – simultaneously to exit. 70 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 71: Handling

    · When KNX bus power supply is connected on the line with communicating thermostats and Synco controllers, the internal KNX power supply of the Synco controllers must be switched off. · Disconnect from power supply before opening the thermostat’s cover. 71 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 72: Commissioning

    Standard display 1: Setpoint 0: --- (no display) Display info line 3: Time of day (12h) via bus line of LCD) 4: Time of day (24h) via bus 72 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 73 Connect the Synco ACS or ETS tool to the KNX bus cable at any point for commissioning. The following example applies to RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB: ACS and ETS require one of the following interfaces: · Ethernet/LAN KNX interface (e.g. Siemens N148, N146 or N152) · OCI702 USB-KNX interface 73 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF...
  • Page 74 Each device has a unique KNX serial number inside the front panel. An additional sticker with the same KNX serial number is enclosed in the packaging box. This sticker is intended for installers for documentation purposes. 74 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 75: Operation

    (depending on the alarms) to select heating or cooling mode. The selected control sequence will start in three seconds. Note: icon is displayed when manual heating/cooling changeover is enabled. 75 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 76: Heating/Cooling Manual Changeover (Rdf800Kn

    European Directive and may not be disposed of as domestic garbage. · Dispose of the device through channels provided for this purpose. · Comply with all local and currently applicable laws and regulations. 76 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 77: Supported Knx Tools

    Each time the application is changed, the Touch ON to exit. thermostat reloads the factory settings for all control parameters, except for KNX device and zone addresses. 77 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 78: Parameter Settings In Ets

    ACS’ main functionality. For more information, refer to ACS online help. Setting RDF800KN../RDF800KN/VB/RDD810KN.. KNX parameters is only Note! STOP supported by ACS version 8.28 or higher. 78 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 79: Parameter Settings In Acs

    The “User level password” (P29) for entering the Service level and the “Installer level Passwords setting password” (P99) for entering the Expert level are visible on the ACS tool only under Device. Both passwords can be modified in the ACS tool. 79 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure...

  • Page 80: Operation And Monitoring With Acs

    The ACS tool offers plant diagrams for easy monitoring and operation of the Plant diagram in ACS thermostat. To start this application, select Applications à Plant operation à Standard diagram. 80 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 81 (P52 = 0) heater 4-pipe fan coil unit Chilled ceiling with radiator 4-pipe – Control sequence: Not auto c/o (P01 <> 3) – Control sequence: No impact (P01 =any) 81 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 82 – Fan operation: Not disabled (P52 <> 0) – Fan operation: Disabled (P52 = 0) – Floor heating limit temperature (P51=OFF) – Floor heating limit temperature (P51≠OFF) Heating only 82 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 83: Operation And Monitoring With Ozw772 Web Server

    The application cannot be displayed in the form of text, instead a number is used: (Parameter Plant type on Basic setting menu): 0 = no application 1 = 2-pipe 2 = 2-pipe and electric heater 4 = 4-pipe 83 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 84: Connection

    – X1 = window contact – X2 = external sensor (function can be selected via P38 or P40) Measuring neutral for sensor and switch KNX data + KNX data - 84 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 85: Connection Diagrams

    B1, B2 Temperature sensor (return air temperature, external M X2 CE+ CE- room temperature, changeover sensor, etc.) KNX data + KNX data – 10 A 5(2)A Max . 85 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 86: Mechanical Design

    KNX bus + and - terminals The front panel of the thermostat can be plugged into the mounting base directly. RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB front panel RDD810KN/NF front panel 86 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 87: Dimensions

    Dimensions Dimensions in mm RDF800KN/NF and RDD810KN/NF for square conduit boxes only 87 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 88 RDF800KN, RDF800KN/VB for round conduit boxes 88 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 89 ARG800.1 single mounting frame for RDF800KN/NF and RDD810KN/NF 89 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...

  • Page 90: Technical Data

    KNX bus Interface type KNX, TP1-64 (electrically isolated) Bus current 5 mA Bus topology: See KNX manuals (“Reference documentation”) 90 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 91 Solid wires or prepared stranded wires 1 x 0.4…1.5 mm 2 x for KNX cables/sensor Wiring cross section on Min 1.5 mm L, N, Q1, Q2, Q3, Y1, Y2 91 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure 2020-02-21...
  • Page 92 Weight without/with packaging for RDF800KN.., 0.155/0.255 kg RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN Weight without/with packaging for RDD810KN/NF 0.145/0.245 kg The documents can be downloaded from http://siemens.com/bt/download. Reference documentation Handbook for Home and Building Control - Basic Principles (http://www.knx.org/knx-en/training/books-documentation/knx-association-books/index.php) Synco CE1P3127 Communication via the KNX bus for Synco 700, 900 and RXB/RXL...
  • Page 93 Plant diagrams in ACS ........80 Fan minimum on-time ......... 47 Fan operation as per heating/cooling mode, or Power failure ............52 disabled ............47 Precomfort ............19 93 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation CE1P3174en Smart Infrastructure Index 2020-02-21...
  • Page 94 Siemens Switzerland Ltd Smart Infrastructure Global Headquarters Theilerstrasse 1a CH-6300 Zug Tel. +41 58 724 2424 © 2014-2020 Siemens Switzerland Ltd. www.siemens.com/buildingtechnologies Technical specifications and availability subject to change without notice. 94 / 94 Siemens RDF800KN.., RDF800KN/VB, RDD810KN/NF Basic documentation...

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