Rice Lake MSI-8004HD Technical Manual
Rice Lake MSI-8004HD Technical Manual

Rice Lake MSI-8004HD Technical Manual

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RF Remote Display
Technical Manual
PN 182430 Rev B
May 17, 2024

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  • Page 1 MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display Technical Manual PN 182430 Rev B May 17, 2024...
  • Page 2 All information contained within this publication is, to the best of our knowledge, complete and accurate at the time of publication. Rice Lake Weighing Systems reserves the right to make changes to the technology, features, specifications and design of the equipment without notice.
  • Page 3 • Layout and enclosure updated Table i. Revision Letter History Technical training seminars are available through Rice Lake Weighing Systems. Course descriptions and dates can be viewed at www.ricelake.com/training or obtained by calling 715-234-9171 and asking for the training department.
  • Page 4: Table Of Contents

    MSI-8004HD Generation 1 Remote Display Parts........
  • Page 5 6.11 Antenna Options ..................64 Technical training seminars are available through Rice Lake Weighing Systems.
  • Page 6 9.0 Specifications ............... . . 73 Rice Lake continually offers web-based video training on a growing selection of product-related topics at no cost.
  • Page 7: Introduction

    Introduction Introduction This manual is intended for use by qualified technicians responsible for setting up and operating the MSI-8004HD. Manuals are available from Rice Lake Weighing Systems at www.ricelake.com/manuals Warranty information is available at www.ricelake.com/warranties Features • IP66 for outdoor use •...
  • Page 8: Safety

    Do not make alterations or modifications to the unit or associated load bearing devices; any alterations void the warranty. Do not remove or obscure warning labels. There are no user serviceable parts within the MSI-8004HD. Any repairs must be performed by qualified service personnel only. www.ricelake.com...
  • Page 9: Front Panel Description

    Class III/IIIL n =10000 Figure 1-1. Front Panel 1.4.1 Keypad Functions The functions of the push buttons vary based on the current MSI-8004HD mode. Weigh Mode Setup Menu Navigation Numeric Entry Power Key Turns the MSI-8400HD On and Off Exits setup without saving changes; ...
  • Page 10: Annunciator Functions

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 1.4.2 Annunciator Functions SCALE ON DISPLAY POINTS CHANNEL FAULT BT RF TTL TEST POWER ZERO TARE UNITS CHAN PRINT MSI-8004HD Class III/IIIL n =10000 Figure 1-2. Front Panel Item No. Description Set Points User programmable setpoints for overload warnings; they are green when set and flash red when tripped Scale Channel Blue LED indicates the channel on display;...
  • Page 11: Installation

    Getting Started The MSI-8004HD is often shipped pre-configured with a scale. If purchased separately, or to be used with a different system, the RF transceivers will have to be paired. Follow the RF Setup Procedure in Section 6.3 on page The system automatically connects with the scale once the RF setup is complete.
  • Page 12: Opening The Enclosure

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 8.132 in Mounting Holes 4.085 in 7.474 in Figure 2-2. Mounting Hole Locations with Dimensions Opening the Enclosure The indicator enclosure must be opened to connect the load cell/sensor cables and other interface connections. WARNING: Before opening the unit, ensure the power is disconnected.
  • Page 13: Wiring/Connections

    RICE LAKE 15W AC SUPPLY TVS2 Figure 2-4. Connectors 2.5.1 Power Supply Both AC and DC power supply are available for the MSI-8004HD. WARNING: Before opening the unit, ensure the power is disconnected. Power Supply Black Wire Connection White Wire (ACN)
  • Page 14: Radio Module Replacement

    Radio Module Replacement The MSI-8004HD can have two radio modules installed at a time. RF1 is programmed to be used with the Rugged Remote. RF2 can be 802.15.4, Wi-Fi, or FHSS. If ordered with the purchase of a system, radio modules will be installed and paired to the scale included in the order.
  • Page 15: Scalecore Card Replacement

    Antenna Replacement There are many antenna options available with the MSI-8004HD (Section 6.11 on page 64). This section contains instructions to replace the standard antenna. For other options, contact Rice Lake Weighing Systems or a local dealer. Antenna O-Ring Antenna Cable Cable Connector Figure 2-8.
  • Page 16: Tilt Stand

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display Tilt Stand Set Screw Assembled View Inside Washer Tilt Stand aligned to indicator Knob and Washer Figure 2-9. Install Tilt Stand ® 1. Place Loctite on the end of the set screws and screw them into the hole on each side of the indicator.
  • Page 17: Battery Option

    2.10 Battery Option The battery powered MSI-8004HD may be powered by a 5 VDC Li-ion rechargeable battery built into the included Tilt Stand Kit. This battery operates for up to 80 hours (depending on LED brightness setting) before requiring recharging. Charging time for a completely discharged battery is up to eight hours.
  • Page 18: Install Battery Option

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 2.10.2 Install Battery Option Figure 2-10. Tilt Stand with Battery Option 1. Power off the remote display. 2. Remove remote display from the tilt stand by removing the knobs, washers and screws. 3. Install the remote display on the battery option tilt stand (Section 2.9 on page...
  • Page 19: Replace Battery

    8. Press the tabs it and insert into holes in the tilt stand. 9. Reinstall the remote display (Section 2.9 on page 16). 10. Connect the USB cable to the battery. 11. Power on the remote display. © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 20: Parts Illustrations

    Refer to the following illustrations and list for replacement parts. 2.11.1 MSI-8004HD Generation 1 Remote Display Parts NOTE: Generation 1 Identifiers • 5 Cord grips • Blue PCA Board • Blue Front Overlay Text Figure 2-14. MSI-8004HD Generation 1 Remote Display Parts Illustration www.ricelake.com Visit our website...
  • Page 21 O-Ring 1/2 ID x 0.070 142039 Silicone Oil 1000 CS 146543 Screw PH 4-40 X 1/4'' NYLON Part number varies per configuration Table 2-1. MSI-8004HD Generation 1 Remote Display Parts List © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 22: Msi-8004Hd Generation 2 Remote Display Parts

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 2.11.2 MSI-8004HD Generation 2 Remote Display Parts NOTE: Generation 2 Identifiers • 6 Cord grips • Red PCA Board • Red Front Overlay Text Figure 2-15. MSI-8004HD Generation 2 Remote Display Parts Illustration www.ricelake.com Visit our website...
  • Page 23 Silicone Oil 1000 CS Viscosity 146543 Screw PH 4-40 x 1/4 Nylon Slot 155173 Option Kit Tilt Stand Part number varies per configuration Table 2-2. MSI-8004HD Generation 2 Remote Display Parts List © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 24: Tilt Stand

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 2.11.3 Tilt Stand Figure 2-16. Tilt Stand Item No. Part No. Description Qty. 155172 Tilt Stand 146200 Washer Flat 5/8 Plated 155192 Screw Set Allen DR CP SS 5/16-18 x 7/8 LG 143879 Knob Fluted 5/16-18 Internal Thread 142031 Adhesive Loctite ®...
  • Page 25: Battery Option

    Knob Fluted 5/16-18 Internal Thread 143224 Rubber Feet 183070 Battery Hold Down 8004 148599 Pad Battery Side 184043 Battery, 5 V Li-ion, USB 183494 Cable Assembly USB Power Table 2-4. Battery Option Parts List © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 26: Operation

    1. Hang the empty container from the scale. 2. Press to enter a tare value. The MSI-8004HD stores the current weight as a tare value and subtracts the value TARE of the container from the GROSS weight.  displays and the weight mode changes to NET.
  • Page 27: View Tare

    GROSS values. This will only work if a tare value has been established. UNITS NOTE: The backup memory in the MSI-8004HD stores the Tare reading and can restore it even if power fails. GROSS Only positive weight readings can be tared.
  • Page 28: Function Keys

    33) to one of the following functions. Some functions require additional programming in the setup menu to work correctly. 3.5.1 Test TEST can be pressed simultaneously to run a test of the MSI-8004HD only. CHAN PRINT 1. When the key is programmed to test (Section 4.3 on page...
  • Page 29: View Total

    Units. Pressing the key changes the displayed units. To use as units, do not program to a UNITS different parameter. • Press to toggle display between available units. UNITS © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 30: High Resolution Test Mode

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 3.5.7 High Resolution Test Mode When the key is programmed to  (Section 4.3 on page 33), and Standard is set to a legal-for-trade UNITS CHAN standard (HB-44 or R-76) (Section 5.5.1 on page 46),, pressing the key prompts the scale to toggle between normal Weigh mode and High Resolution Test mode.
  • Page 31: Setup

    CHAN POWER The MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display is capable of performing setup function remotely on the RF transmitter that it is receiving information from. To enter the setup menu of the connected scale or weight indicator, press keys at the...
  • Page 32 Print – Outputs a configured text string to the RS-232 port on the base of the Dyna-Link (Section 3.4 on page  Tare – Can be programmed to a F-key if desired; The MSI-8004HD has a dedicated tare key so it is not necessary  Scan – Displays connected scan channels in order (Section 3.5.8 on page...
  • Page 33: Function Keys

    3. Press . The currently saved parameter displays. UNITS 4. Press to scroll through the settings. CHAN 5. Press to select the desired setting. UNITS 6. Press to save and exit. ZERO © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 34: Auto-Off

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display Auto-Off The Auto-Off feature prolongs the battery life by automatically powering off the unit if no buttons are pressed and there is no change in the load exceeding 10 d for the time period, in minutes, set by the user. When a button is pressed or the detected load is in motion exceeding 10 d, the time limit is reset.
  • Page 35: Display Brightness

    ZERO Display Color The MSI-8004HD display supports four color schemes. Three of the color schemes display a steady color. The fourth, , changes the color of the display when setpoints 1 and 2 are tripped (Section 4.8 on page 36).
  • Page 36: Setpoints

    Table 4-3. Available Setpoint Settings When the display color is set to , the MSI-8004HD is set to change the color of the display when setpoints 1 and 2 are tripped. This is useful in warning of possible overload conditions. This feature is not available with the blue LED display or when the display color is set to orange or red.
  • Page 37: Output

    NOTE: The display brightness changes as each setting is displayed. 5. Press when the desired setting is displayed.  displays. UNITS 6. Press to exit setup and store the settings. ZERO © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 38: Remote Scale Setup

    This disables the display in order to reduce power consumption and increase battery life. After several seconds, the MSI-8004HD will wake up to check for any changes in tension. If there is a change in tension, the unit stays awake.
  • Page 39: Total Mode

    1% threshold is exceeded to allow the next addition to the total value. NOTE: The F-Total functions as View Total only until the 1% threshold is exceeded, to allow the addition to the total value. © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 40 MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display Auto Total Auto Total has three variations which are programmed in the Setup menu. Program an F-key to AUTO TOTAL, it then functions as Auto Total On / Auto Total Off (Section 4.3 on page 33).
  • Page 41: Calibration

    Calibration Calibration The MSI-8004HD remote display can be used for calibrating MSI ScaleCore-based crane scales and dynamometers, including MSI-4260, MSI-3460, MSI-6360, MSI-9600HT and MSI-7300. The connected scale is calibrated using standard weights. The weight used to calibrate, must be at least 15% of full capacity in order to achieve rated accuracy.
  • Page 42: Standard Calibration

    .  displays momentarily, then  displays. ZERO 19. Press to exit calibration.  displays momentarily, then the unit returns to weigh mode. ZERO Repeat this procedure to calibrate all scales that are connected to the MSI-8004HD remote display. www.ricelake.com Visit our website...
  • Page 43: Initial Calibration

    Set an F-key Press the programmed F-Key to scroll to the load cell to be calibrated. IMPORTANT: If the remote ScaleCore device being calibrated is in a legal-for-trade weighing standard, HB-44 or R-76, the physical calibration switch on the device being calibrated must be pressed before calibrating using the MSI-8004HD Remote Display.
  • Page 44: Guidelines For Capacity And Resolution

    The third way to increase stability is to increase the Motion Window. The MSI-8400HD defaults to ±1d as a motion window. It can be changed at Rice Lake Weighing Systems to a higher value if desired. Often ±3d is chosen for bridge cranes as they tend to have a lot of bounce to them.
  • Page 45: C-Cal Calibration

    Pass displays followed by . UNITS 10. Press .  displays momentarily, then  displays. ZERO 11. Press to exit calibration.  displays momentarily, then the unit returns to weigh mode. ZERO © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 46: Calibration Setup Menu

    Another use of the One Unit standard is to allow the scale to be calibrated in units other than lb or kg, since conversions are eliminated; Contact Rice Lake Weighing Systems for more information on the Standards settings Table 5-1. Standard Menu Selections Setup is used to set the desired Industry Standard and Auto Zero Maintenance (AZM).
  • Page 47: Gravity Compensation

    Store displays momentarily and the unit returns to weigh mode. ZERO Contact Rice Lake Weighing Systems for more information on the standards settings. Gravity Compensation Gravity Compensation allows for calibrating in one geographic location for use in a different geographic location. Gravity can be set to OFF, ON, or Factor.
  • Page 48: Compensation By Gravity Factor

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 6. Press to scroll to . CHAN 7. Press .  displays. UNITS 8. Press to enter latitude of origin. CHAN 9. Press .  displays. UNITS 10. Press to enter elevation of origin. CHAN 11. Press .
  • Page 49: Reset The Load Cell Calibration

    5. Proceed with the Initial Calibration (Section 5.2 on page 43). IMPORTANT: Pressing resets all indicator settings to the original factory settings. UNITS Press the to cancel reset and return to the previous menu. POWER © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 50: Communications

    • Antennas are isolated at least 10 ft (3 m) from the equipment • MSI-8004HD based RF systems are peer to peer; In multiple scale connections, it acts as the network coordinator The MSI-8004HD uses three numbers to establish a piconet.
  • Page 51: Printer Setup

    The control mode directs the MSI-8004HD to print (Section 6.2.1 on page 51). The communications port settings are independent of print settings in connected scales. They are only in the MSI-8004HD. Settings Description Print Setup – Select the channel the port will be used with; Options: ,, ...
  • Page 52: Standard Print Strings

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 6.2.2 Standard Print Strings Commands that can be used to format gross, net and print strings are shown below. Command Description <T> Load data <U> Units <M> Load mode (lb/kg) <CRLF> Carriage return line feed <SP>...
  • Page 53: Printer Output Setup

    CHAN 18. Once the desired output is displayed, press to save.  displays. UNITS 19. Press three times to exit,  displays briefly then the unit returns to weigh mode. ZERO © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 54: Custom Print Formatters

    When set to ON, the radio continues to use power when the MSI-8004HD is turned off. In battery powered applications, this will use some battery power even when the MSI-8004HD is turned off. This is required to be set to ON if using the Rugged Remote with the ...
  • Page 55 CHAN UNITS NOTE: Rice Lake Weighing Systems recommends at least a four digit for the Network ID, to ensure there are no conflicts with any other 802.15.4 networks. 15. When value is correct, press to store.
  • Page 56: Rf Set Up - Dyna-Link 2 And Msi Crane Scale

    Setup Multiple Sensor Network The MSI-8004HD can monitor up to four load sensors. The sensors can be read individually, in pairs or summed. Dyna-Link 2 is shown for illustration purposes only. Any ScaleCore based crane scale can also be used.
  • Page 57: Scan Weight Inputs

    CHAN UNITS 6. When correct number of remote displays attached (2–4) is displayed press UNITS This number does not include the MSI-8004HD or any modems.  displays. 7. Press . The Load Totaling setting displays. UNITS 8. Press to scroll through numbers and to save the selected numbers.
  • Page 58: Scanlist Id

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display Scanlist ID The scanlist ID specifies the load cell/sensor that scales one through four will use for summing totals. It allows up to four devices to be summed together on the remote display. 1. Press at the same time.  displays.
  • Page 59: Real Time Clock

    MM-DD”. Print time and date formatting is determined by the programmed print string. NOTE: Time and date support is not available on older versions of the MSI-8004HD. If time and date support is not available, time and date will either not display during the display TEST or the time and date will show up as all zeros. If you would like time and date support and your MSI-8004HD does not support it, please contact your dealer.
  • Page 60: Communications Port Hardware

    • Comm Port 2 is either configured as a second wired serial port (J6 or P6) or the RF 2 radio module (Section 2.6 on page 14). NOTE: Serial Port P6 parallel to serial port J6. If MSI-8004HD is configured for 2 wired Turck connectors, the second Turck connector is wired to P6. MH13 Analog Option...
  • Page 61 8004HD to Computer connection Printer/Scoreboard connection (TXD1) (RXD1) (RXD1) (TXD1) Cut and Insulate (SIGGND) (SIGGND) (TXD2) (RXD2) 9-Pin Male ‘D’ 9-Pin Female ‘D’ Solder Cup View Solder Cup View Figure 6-4. Communication Wiring © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 62: Relays

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 6.10 Relays The MSI-8004HD is equipped with two 5 V coil, 250 VAC, 5.0 A, relays for process control or safety systems.Wire the relays to the terminal block, J5 (Figure 6-4). The relay option connecting cables are shown in Table 6-11..
  • Page 63: Extended Relay Kit - Optional

    AC/DC SSR 400 VPK, 0.5 A: 14628 AQZ404, 0.5 A Fuse 144583 (use limited to 250 VRMS due to connector and cordset limitations) One 1 Form B Closed SSR Requires a minor modification on the Relay board and can only be ordered by contacting Rice Lake Weighing Sys- tems Table 6-13. Relay Options...
  • Page 64: Antenna Options

    MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display 6.11 Antenna Options NOTE: To meet FCC licensing rules, use only antennas supplied or recommended by Rice Lake Weighing Systems. Antenna placement is critical to problem-free use of the system. • Ensure a relatively clear transmission path exists between the devices to be connected; Radio signals travel primarily by line of sight (LOS), obstructions between stations may degrade the system performance •...
  • Page 65 The mount includes 17' of low loss coax terminated in a TNC connector. YAGI Antenna For maximum range, a 14 dBi gain Yagi Antenna is available by special order. Please contact Rice Lake Weighing Systems for details. Corner Reflector Antenna Corner reflector antennas are often the best choice for a wall mounted antenna.
  • Page 66: Optional Rugged Remote

    Optional Rugged Remote The MSI-8004HD with an installed RF modem can be controlled with an optional Rugged Remote (PN 173014). The Rugged Remote is a transmit only device that can be used to perform basic scale functions. The range may vary up to 100 ft or more depending on room conditions and line of sight.
  • Page 67: Power

    This key is not programmable. 7.1.3 Programmable Function Keys Tare/F1 and FCN/F2 (pictures of buttons) are programmable in the MSI-8004HD. Function 1 is defaulted to Peak hold and Function 2 is defaulted to Test in the MSI-8004HD. See Section 4.3 on page 33 to configure the MSI-8004HD function keys for Rugged Remote operation.
  • Page 68: Maintenance

    The system not stable possible to increase the motion window; Contact Rice Lake Weighing Systems if there is a problem getting the MSI-8004HD to zero, tare or total due to stabil- ity issues Set point is enabled and the trigger...
  • Page 69: Error Codes

    Maintenance Error Codes The ScaleCore Processor that is the heart of the MSI-8004HD Remote Display detects errors and generates error codes to aid in troubleshooting. Error Code Definition Comment LC Disabled A Load cell was not enabled  The system is in calibration mode;...
  • Page 70: Mechanical Dimensions

    3. Establish a connection between the MSI-8004HD and PC through the terminal program (Teraterm). 4. Optional step: Test that there is a connection by typing {00FF01?}. If the connection is good the MSI-8004HD will respond with {000001r2;0;01E02;2011-07-08;11:05} or something similar.
  • Page 71 Completed 9. After the file is received, the terminal displays Completed. Then the boot menu displays again. MSI-8004HD Rice Lake MSI SCALECORE3 BOOT LOADER Ver. xx-xx (c) Date, Time (u) Download and program application code (the bootloader version may vary)
  • Page 72: Coin-Cell Battery Replacement

    The RTC utilizes a CR2032 coin-cell battery to maintain time and date while the MSI-8000HD is disconnected from a power supply. If the MSI-8004HD no longer updates the time and date while the power is disconnected from a power supply, the battery may need to be replaced.
  • Page 73: Specifications

    Six-digit, 1.5 in (38 mm) LED display with red/green/orange coloring Keys/Buttons On/Off, Zero, Tare, Print and two user-defined keys Operating Temperature Operating: -40° to 140°F (-40° to 60°C) Certified: 23° to 104°F (-5° to 40°C) © Rice Lake Weighing Systems ● All Rights Reserved...
  • Page 74 MSI-8004HD RF Remote Display www.ricelake.com Visit our website...
  • Page 76 © Rice Lake Weighing Systems Content subject to change without notice. 230 W. Coleman St. • Rice Lake, WI 54868 • USA USA: 800-472-6703 • International: +1-715-234-9171 PN 182430 Rev B May 17, 2024 www.ricelake.com...

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