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PTO Operation & Installation Guide
PTO GENERAL GUIDELINES
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The Dodge Ram 3500/4500/5500 Chassis cab models equipped with diesel engines that have the 
PTO prep option (LBN) have the capability of mounting and controlling a PTO.    
The gasoline powered models do not have PTO capability.   
The Aisin AS68RC Automatic transmission can use devices up to 35 HP and 130 ft‐lbs torque. 
Chelsea 270 or 252 series fit this transmission.  Muncie CS6 series fit this transmission.  There is 
no difference in how PTO and pump mount between 4x2 and 4x4 automatic models. 
The G56 manual transmissions are limited in power output only by the PTO manufacturers' 
maximums.   Chelsea  442 (deep mount) series fit this transmission, however on 4x4 models this 
PTO is very close to the front driveshaft .  Muncie Alpha series fits this transmission.  
The automatic transmission models have been test fit with 17 GPM rated size single pumps and 
tandem 11 GPM rated pumps.  While these larger pumps have limited clearance to the exhaust 
system and many people have mentioned this as a concern, it should be noted that the exhaust 
pipe in the PTO area is a double walled pipe which provides significant heat insulation 
properties.  In fact, in our extreme heat PTO testing in over 100 degree F Fahrenheit 
temperature we never exceeded 200 degree F on the PTO, pump or hoses.         
The manual transmission models are as follows:  The 4x2 models have no particular packaging 
limitations with respect to direct mount pumps.  The 4x4 models are limited by the location of 
the front driveshaft to approximately a standard 11 GPM rated pump (although larger pumps 
may have been successfully fitted in the field).   However, some customers have had success 
using bent axis piston pumps (mounted forward) to get substantially higher flows. 
If you have specific PTO and pump fitment questions and can provide the actual PTO and pump 
combination, we can test fit it and provide pictures and instructions on how to install your 
specific combination.   
Please read this information carefully and call us with any questions before you order a vehicle so you 
understand the specific capabilities of our PTO system. 
The Automatic transmission PTO is turbine driven not engine driven.   What this means is that 
the PTO will work only with the stationary mode in park, or in mobile mode with the vehicle 
moving at approximately 7 mph and above or in neutral.  Because of this the PTO system is not a 
suitable system for vehicles like: snow plows, autoloader wreckers, or dump trucks if they are 
used to dump and spread at a crawling speed.    These vehicles are more effective with an 
engine driven 'clutch pump' type hydraulic pump.  Alternatively, Parker‐Chelsea makes a 
product called Stored Energy Management System (SEMS) that allows such applications to 
function.   
The size and package space do not allow for components driven by a driveshaft from a PTO on 
our trucks.  The automatic transmission models have exhaust system components in the way 
that cannot be relocated because it will effect emissions compliance.    The manual transmission 
models have either the transfer case (4x4) or the transmission crossmember in the way.   
The manual transmission has the capability to support a split shaft PTO.  The automatic 
transmission model does not support a split shaft PTO because the transmission cannot be held 
in direct drive gear.   
2011 Chassis Cab
Pump sizes 
PTO Limitations
06/24/2010

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  • Page 1 06/24/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO GENERAL GUIDELINES New information: click here to see the bulletin • The Dodge Ram 3500/4500/5500 Chassis cab models equipped with diesel engines that have the  PTO prep option (LBN) have the capability of mounting and controlling a PTO.     • The gasoline powered models do not have PTO capability.    • The Aisin AS68RC Automatic transmission can use devices up to 35 HP and 130 ft‐lbs torque.  Chelsea 270 or 252 series fit this transmission.  Muncie CS6 series fit this transmission.  There is  no difference in how PTO and pump mount between 4x2 and 4x4 automatic models.  • The G56 manual transmissions are limited in power output only by the PTO manufacturers’  maximums.   Chelsea  442 (deep mount) series fit this transmission, however on 4x4 models this  PTO is very close to the front driveshaft .  Muncie Alpha series fits this transmission.   Pump sizes  • The automatic transmission models have been test fit with 17 GPM rated size single pumps and  tandem 11 GPM rated pumps.  While these larger pumps have limited clearance to the exhaust  system and many people have mentioned this as a concern, it should be noted that the exhaust  pipe in the PTO area is a double walled pipe which provides significant heat insulation  properties.  In fact, in our extreme heat PTO testing in over 100 degree F Fahrenheit ...
  • Page 2 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation The 3500/4500/5500 Ram Chassis Cab vehicle, when equipped with either the automatic Aisin 6spd or manual G-56 6spd transmissions, will allow for an aftermarket upfit with a transmission driven PTO (power take off). The customer will have the ability to operate the PTO in either a “stationary”...
  • Page 3 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide increase or decrease the engine idle speed, to optimize the PTO function, the “accel” and “decel”...
  • Page 4 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide Remote Stationary mode This feature interacts with the transmission to utilize an auxiliary shaft to drive equipment. Activated by a switch outside of the cab, this feature operates only when the vehicle is stationary.
  • Page 5 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide LEARNING SET SPEED NOTE: This Feature Requires Engine Calibration Software released in December 2008: If your vehicle was produced before December 2008, you must have the dealer “Reflash” the engine controller to December 2008 or later engine software. In order for this feature to work the PTO MUST be wired as REMOTE PTO (pto switch between F425 and V937) not standard PTO.
  • Page 6 06/01/2011 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide 5 preset idle speeds (sub set of remote PTO) This feature comes factory preset to the following 5 engine idle speeds 900, 1100, 1300, 1500, 1700 rpm’s.
  • Page 7 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide Stationary PTO/Remote PTO Calibrations: Maximum Engine Torque The engine torque will be limited to this value when PTO or Remote PTO is Active. Maximum Vehicle Speed The maximum vehicle speed allowed before deactivating PTO. Range 1-25 MPH. Minimum Engine Speed Defines the lower limit engine speed can be adjusted to when PTO/Remote PTO is active.
  • Page 8 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Circuit Definition Chart The following chart is provided to assist in correctly interfacing the PTO with the vehicle: Shown here is the 8 way connector and pinout of the circuits at the bell housing of the transmission...
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  • Page 15 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Operation & Installation Guide Description of Pressure Ports for the Aisin Transmission. PTO Pressure Line to be connected only to #9 Line Main Pressure.
  • Page 16 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide PTO Installation Alternative In addition to the current method of PTO installation from beneath the vehicle, an alternative method has been developed that allows the installation from above by removing the PTO patch panel in the floor. The instructions are as follows. 1.
  • Page 17 01/22/2010 2011 Chassis Cab PTO Operation & Installation Guide 5. Remove the fasteners and sealer from around the patch panel. Cut away the sound deadener pad to expose the transmission PTO access. 6. You are now able to install and assemble the PTO and pump through the opening. Note: larger pumps must be inserted through the hole and moved toward the rear of the opening before installing the PTO.