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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com RETURN TO MAIN INDEX SVM114-C LN-25 PORTABLE CV/CC ™ July, 2008 SEMIAUTOMATIC WIRE FEEDER For use with machines having Code Numbers: 9218 10556 11144 9219 10557 11145 9220 10558 11282 9383 11144 11283...
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Miami, Florida 33135 or CSA Standard W117.2-1974. A Free copy of “Arc Welding Safety” booklet E205 is available from the Lincoln Electric Company, 22801 St. Clair Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio 44117-1199. BE SURE THAT ALL INSTALLATION, OPERATION, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR PROCEDURES ARE PERFORMED ONLY BY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS.
All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com i i i i SAFETY i i i i ELECTRIC SHOCK can kill. ARC RAYS can burn. 3.a. The electrode and work (or ground) circuits 4.a. Use a shield with the proper filter and cover are electrically “hot”...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com i i i i i i S S A A F F E E T T Y Y i i i i i i WELDING and CUTTING CYLINDER may explode SPARKS can if damaged. cause fire or explosion.
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com i i v v S S A A F F E E T T Y Y i i v v 6. Eloigner les matériaux inflammables ou les recouvrir afin de PRÉCAUTIONS DE SÛRETÉ prévenir tout risque d’incendie dû...
All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com INSTALLATION TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS – LN-25™ V V O O L L T T A A G G E E OPERATING ARC VOLTAGE Constant Voltage (CV) 15-40 VDC (110VDC Maximum OCV) Constant Current (CC)
POWER SOURCE CONNECTION the DC-250™ is turned on. The LN-25™ can be used with any DC welding power b. Connect electrode cable to the “Innershield/ source. A constant voltage power source is GMAW”...
“POSITIVE”. For electrode positive welding, Connection” switch at appropriate position. interchange the above lead connections so the LN-25™ electrode lead is then connected to the d. Place power source toggle switch in “Output positive power source terminal. Control at DC(CV) -400™” position, unless a remote control is connected to 75, 76 and 77 on b.
“C” suffix to the wire sizes. Route the electrode cable through the oval hole in the lower por tion of the LN-25™ rear panel. Drive rolls for only solid electrode sizes are stencilled with an “S” Connect the electrode cable to the LN-25™ input suffix to the wire sizes.
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Pulse Power 500™ with K460-1 LN-25™ Kit. tection. WELDING CAPABILITY The LN-25™ will handle up to 500 Amp 60% duty cycle welding currents. However, when equipped with a K443-1,-2, or-3 (depending on code number) Contactor, the LN-25™ will handle up to 300 Amp 60% duty cycle.
OPERATION LN-25™ INSTRUMENTS AND NOTE: CONTROLS 1. The Voltmeter will read zero if the LN-25™ work clip lead is not connected to work, even if the Refer to Figure B.1 for control locations. elec trode is electrically “hot” to work.
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Solenoid Kit in the Accessories Section. the LN-25™ work lead clip if the power source output is on. The clip will be electrically “HOT” to work if the GAS POST PRE-FLOW TIMERS (OPTIONAL) input electrode cable to the LN-25™...
MOUNTING 22 TO 30 LB READI-REEL COILS spool in a clockwise direction when dereeled from ® the bot tom of the coil. The early models of the LN-25™ were factory c. Replace and tighten the locking collar. equipped with a K363-P Readi-Reel ® Adapter which is required to load Lincoln 22 to 30 lb Readi-Reel ®...
“birdnest”.) Keep gun in LN-25™ gun holder when not feeding wire to prevent accidental arcing. c. Insert the free end through the incoming guide tube to the drive roll.
29V for example used). specific voltage level. A chart representation of the CC wire speed setting The LN-25™ permits accurate CC mode presetting of graph is shown in Figure B.4, giving the Wire Speed the desired wire feed speed, for the desired arc...
K624-1 42V Remote Control Module is installed but 372 331 298 270 248 229 213 198 186 175 the LN-25™ is to be used without the Remote Control 394 350 315 286 263 242 225 210 197 185 Cable Assembly, then the Remote Board harness plug...
The gun trigger controls wire feed only. d. To stop welding, release the gun trigger and then pull the gun away from the work. Store the gun in the LN-25™ insulated gun holder when not welding. WARNING PROCEDURE AT END OF COIL CYLINDER may explode if damaged.
To aid in stabilizing the arc voltage when welding on excessive feeding force, jammed drive rolls or shorted CC power sources the LN-25™ is provided with a CC motor leads), the LN-25™ will shut down within a few wire feed mode. This arc voltage sensing feed mode seconds after the overload occurs.
How to use Table C.1. Determine which Kit No. is to be used. Locate that Kit No. in the left hand vertical column. Scan horizontally to determine which LN-25™ model is required and what additional kits may be required. TABLE C.1 LN-25™...
NOTE: If the K431-1 Remote Output Control Kit is LN-25™ CONTACTOR KIT (K443-1 FOR CODES installed but the LN-25™ is to be used without the BELOW 10500, K443-2 FOR CODES 10500 TO 10558 OR K433-3 K432 Remote Control Cable Assembly, then the Re -...
NOTE: If the K624-1 42V Remote Output Control (2-4). Module is installed but the LN-25™ is to be used without the K625, K626 or K627 Remote Control K444-2 connects to power sources with a 14-pin...
.252 CONNECTOR MUST .260 BE INSULATED 1.00 IN THIS AREA 2.00 1.25 LN-25 Connector for 1/16 (.062) through 5/64 Wire .180 .160 .03 x 45 STYLE "B" "A" DIA. HOLE .495 MAX. LN-25 Cable Connector for .023 through .052 Wire DIA.
G1757- 1 PC boards a 5 amp fuse was used to changed. interrupt the 667 lead. The LN-25™ will not operate if the fuse is blown. The drive rolls for .035 through .052 cored electrode ⁄...
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Cut wire off at the end of the gun tip. 1. Be sure all power to the LN-25™ is shut off at the b. Press trigger to feed wire for exactly 30 seconds. power source.
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INPUT CABLE ARMATURE VOLTAGE VOLT TO WORK METER RPM FEEDBACK CONTROL SENSING LEAD BOARD RANGE WIRE FEED SWITCH MODE SWITCH WIRE SPEED CONTROL SOLENOID PC BOARD SOLENOID EARLY MODELS ONLY - LATER MODELS HAVE CIRCUITRY INCLUDED ON CONTROL BOARD LN-25™...
It can be used with most constant voltage or constant current DC The LN-25™ is a portable semiautomatic wire power sources without the need of a control feeder designed to operate from a DC arc cable.
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“signaled” to apply armature voltage to the feed speed is maintained. See Figure E.3. When drive motor and to activate any auxiliary circuits the LN-25™ is connected to a constant current that may be incorporated within the LN-25™. (CC) power source, a variable wire feed speed See Figure E.3.
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GAS SOLENOID Early Models Only (Below 10500) The contactor, contactor PC board, and cold inch The gas solenoid feature permits the LN-25™ to be switch are commonly incorporated in the LN-25™. This used for gas metal arc welding (GMAW) processes.
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If excessive motor overload occurs (due to prolonged excessive feeding force, jammed drive rolls or shorted motor leads) the LN-25™ will shut down within a few seconds after the overload occurs. The shutdown will reset automatically when the gun trigger is released,...
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• Never work on the inside of the machine without removing the input power. You can receive a life threatening electrical shock if you fail to do this. Only qualified technicians should perform installation, maintenance, and troubleshooting work on the machine. LN-25™...
HOW TO USE TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE WARNING Service and Repair should only be performed by Lincoln Electric Factory Trained Personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician and machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid Electrical Shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
Do not touch electrically hot parts. - If you return a PC board to The Lincoln Electric Company for credit, it must be in the static-shielding bag. This will prevent further damage and allow prop- CAUTION er failure analysis.
NOTE: Many options and possible option combinations are available for the LN-25™. In many cases, it is best to disconnect the options and test the LN-25™ in its “basic” form. In this manner, many possible faulty circuits can be isolated and/or eliminated from the troubleshooting procedure.
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CAUTION If for any reason you do not understand the test procedures or are unable to perform the tests/repairs safely, contact the Lincoln Electric Service Department for technical troubleshooting assistance before you proceed. Call 1-888-935-3877. LN-25™...
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Replace. Contactor PC Board. CAUTION If for any reason you do not understand the test procedures or are unable to perform the tests/repairs safely, contact the Lincoln Electric Service Department for technical troubleshooting assistance before you proceed. Call 1-888-935-3877. LN-25™...
(FOR CODES BELOW 10500 ONLY) WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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GAS SOLENOID VALVE 1. Open the case door. Remove the wire reel by removing the retaining collar. See Figure F.1. 2. Remove the screws holding the control box cover in place and remove the control box cover. See Figure F.1. LN-25™...
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12 VDC to the gas solenoid. 5. If the solenoid activates and allows gas flow, then the solenoid valve is good. NOTE: There should not be any gas flow until the solenoid is activated. LN-25™...
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SOLENOID PC BOARD 1. Apply at least 25 VDC but no more than 100 VDC to the LN-25™ from the electrode cable to the work sensing lead. Make sure the polarity switch is set to match the polarity of the electrode cable.
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The appropriate jumper plugs may be used to 4. Check for the presence of 10 VDC from lead isolate and check suspect contactor or remote 606(+) to lead 621(-). When the LN-25™ trigger control boards. circuit is activated, the voltage should drop to about 1 VDC.
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Volt/Ohmmeter DC Voltage Source (25 to 100 VDC) NOTE: LN-25™ units with the L12253-[ ] Control Board do not use a Contactor PC Board. Codes above 10100 may have been upgraded to use this Control Board and must be tested accordingly.
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GAS SOLENOID VALVE 1. Open the case door. Remove the wire reel by removing the retaining collar. See Figure F.5. 2. Remove the screws holding the control box cover in place and remove the control box cover. See Figure F.5 LN-25™...
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12 VDC to the gas solenoid. 5. If the solenoid activates and allows gas flow, then the solenoid valve is good. NOTE: There should not be any gas flow until the solenoid is activated. LN-25™...
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CONTROL PC BOARD SOLENOID CIRCUITRY TEST 1. Apply at least 25 VDC but no more than 100 VDC to the LN-25™ from the electrode cable to the work sensing lead. Make sure the polarity switch is set to match the polarity of the electrode cable.
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Control boardhave thesme connection 690(+) to lead 691(-) at solenoid valve. points ad shown in Figure F.8 for the The LN-25™ trigger circuit must be activated supply and solenoid voltages or the purge button must be pressed. 4. If the above voltage reading is not correct at the solenoid valve, check for 5 to 6VDC at plug J2 pin 3 lead 690(+) &...
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HALL EFFECT MODULE TEST WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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Control Board). Do not disconnect the leads from the board. See 2. Remove the screws holding the control box Figure F.9, or F.10. See Figure F.11 for codes cover in place and remove the control box above 10500. cover. See Figure F.5. LN-25™...
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4. Apply at least 25 VDC but no more than 100 represents the correct feedback voltage from VDC to the LN-25™ from the electrode cable to the hall effect device to the control board. the work sensing lead. Observe polarity and set 7.
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WIRE DRIVE MOTOR TEST WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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See the motor is grounded to the motor case and Figure F.12. should be replaced. For codes 9812 and below, remove the two motor leads 539(white) and 541(black) from the control PC board. See Figure F.10. LN-25™...
Phillips Head Screwdriver 12 VDC Supply Volt/Ohmmeter NOTE: LN-25™ units with the L12253-[ ] Control Board do not use a Contactor PC Board. Codes above 10100 may have been upgraded to use this Control Board and must be tested accordingly.
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See Figure F.5. codes 9812 and below, remove the two 2. Remove the screws holding the control box contactor coil leads from the contactor PC cover in place and remove the control box board. See Figure F.14. cover. See Figure F.5. LN-25™...
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6. If the contactor activates when the 12 VDC is are “stuck” and the contactor is faulty. Replace. applied, check the resistance between the two large ter minal studs with the contactor activated. The resistance should be very low (0 to 1 ohm). LN-25™...
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3. Apply at least 25VDC but no more than 6. Be sure to reconnect all plugs previously 100VDC to the LN-25™ from the electrode removed. cable to the work sensing lead. Observe polarity and set polarity switch.
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1. Check to be sure that plug P14 is connected to the Control Board and is secure. 2. Apply at least 25vdc but no more than 100vdc to the LN-25™ from the Electrode cable to the Work Sensing Lead. Observe the polarity and set the Polarity Switch accordingly.
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com F-30 F-30 NOTES LN-25™...
CONTACTOR PC BOARD REPLACEMENT WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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J7 from the contactor PC board. See Procedures at the beginning of this section. Figure F.17. 2. Open the case door. Remove the wire reel by removing the retaining collar. See Figure F.5. 3. Remove the screws holding the control box LN-25™...
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5. For codes 9812 and below, remove the codes 9812 and below, remove plug J3 from the contactor coil leads and plug J7 from the control PC board. See Figure F.18. contactor PC board. See Figure F.17. Also for LN-25™...
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8. For codes 10148 and above, install plug J9 and plug J7 onto the contactor PC board. See Figure F.17. 9. For codes 9812 and below, install the contactor LN-25™...
CONTROL PC BOARD REPLACEMENT WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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J1, J2, J3 and J4. See Figure F.20. It may be necessary to remove the Contactor PC Board or the Remote Control PC Board if installed. FIGURE F.21. – CONTROL PC BOARD (CODES 9812 AND BELOW). G1757 G1757 LN-25™...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com F-37 F-37 TROUBLESHOOTING AND REPAIR FIGURE F.22. - PLUG LOCATIONS FOR L12253-[ ] CONTROL BOARD Contactor LN-25™...
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PC board. See Figure F.20. installing the screws previously removed. NOTE:For Codes above 10148 with a newer 12. Install the wire reel and retaining collar and Control Board (L12253-[ ]) and a contactor, close the case door. install plug J14. See Figure F.22. LN-25™...
(FOR CODES BELOW 10500) WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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8. Carefully remove the contactor from the LN- 25™. 1. Open the case door. Remove the wire reel by 9. Install a new contactor in the LN-25™. removing the retaining collar. See Figure F.5. 10. Connect the contactor coil lead in-line 2.
(FOR CODES ABOVE 10500) WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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Carefully remove the contactor assembly from the LN-25™. 1. Open the case door. Remove the wire reel by 10. Install a new contactor in the LN-25™. removing the retaining collar. See Figure F.5. 11. Connect the contactor coil lead in-line 2.
BOARD (IF PRESENT) REPLACEMENT WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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Disconnect wiring only as needed. 3. For codes 10148 thru 10500, remove plug J11 from the solenoid PC board. Also, disconnect FIGURE F.28. – GAS SOLENOID ASSEMBLY WIRING (FOR CODES ABOVE 10500). LN-25™...
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4e. Remove any necessary brass fittings required. FIGURE F.30. GAS SOLENOID ASSEMBLY (FOR CODES ABOVE 10500) BRASS FITTING GAS SOLENOID VALVE GAS SOLENOID NIPPLE GAS HOSE GAS SOLENOID VALVE MOUNTING SCREW GAS SOLENOID ASSEMBLY BRACKET LN-25™...
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PC board. installing the three screws previously removed. 10. Install the replacement solenoid PC board onto 17. Install the wire reel and retaining collar and the assembly bracket and secure with the two close the case door. mounting screws. LN-25™...
ACCESS TO HALL EFFECT MODULE WARNING Service and repair should be performed by only Lincoln Electric factory trained personnel. Unauthorized repairs performed on this equipment may result in danger to the technician or machine operator and will invalidate your factory warranty. For your safety and to avoid electrical shock, please observe all safety notes and precautions detailed throughout this manual.
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See Figure F.32. cover. See Figure F.5. 6. Carefully remove the wire drive assembly. See 4. For codes 10148 and above, separate both in- Figure F.32. LN-25™...
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Install the rear end plate, lock washers and screws. 10. Position the wire drive assembly inside the case and secure to the bottom of the case with the FIGURE F.33. – CONTROL BOARD G1757 G1757 LN-25™...
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DRIVE MOTOR AND GEARBOX REPLACEMENT AND ACCESS TO HALL EFFECT MODULE (continued) FIGURE F.34. – DRIVE MOTOR REPLACEMENT. DRIVE MOTOR HALL EFFECT MODULE GEARBOX REAR END PLATE LOCKWASHER FLAT WASHER END PLATE MOUNTING SCREW LOCKWASHER DRIVE MOTOR MOUNTING SCREW LN-25™...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS WIRING DIAGRAM - ABOVE CODE 11140 (G4679) N.B., N.D., OPTIONAL REMOTE N.H. TIMER P.C. KIT PLUG COLD INCH CONTROL BOARD 530C 530B PUSHBUTTON P.C. BOARD 530A N.A. SWITCH 500C 500B 530A 530A OPTIONAL TIMER KIT N.M .
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS WIRING DIAGRAM - CODE 10556 THRU 10500 (L10925) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. The wiring diagram specific to your code is pasted inside one of the enclosure panels of your machine. ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS WIRING DIAGRAM - CODE 10100 THRU 10500 (L9644) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. The wiring diagram specific to your code is pasted inside one of the enclosure panels of your machine. ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS WIRING DIAGRAM - BELOW CODE 9900 (L7545) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. The wiring diagram specific to your code is pasted inside one of the enclosure panels of your machine. ¤...
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ENGINEERING CONTROLLED CHANGE DETAIL: CAVITY NUMBERING SEQUENCE MANUFACTURER: GENERAL INFORMATION Input Power (COMPONENT SIDE OF P.C. BOARD) ELECTRICAL SYMBOLS PER E1537 LN-25 ACROSS THE ARC MODEL 15V-110VDC COLOR CODE BLACK WHITE CODES 11144, 11145, 11146 BLUE INPUT VOLTAGE LN-25 FEEDHEAD...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - COMPLETE MACHINE - BELOW CODE 9900 ONLY (G1833) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤ ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTROL PC BD - ABOVE CODE 11140 (G4616-5) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤ ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTROL PC BD - CODE 10556 THRU 10558 (G3424-3) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤ ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com G-10 G-10 ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTROL PC BD - CODE 10100 THRU 10500 (G2194) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤...
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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WITHOUT AFFECTING THE INTERCHANGEABILITY OF A COMPLETE BOARD, THIS DIAGRAM MAY FRAME CONNECTION NOT SHOW THE EXACT COMPONENTS OR CIRCUITRY OF CONTROLS HAVING A COMMON CODE EARTH GROUND CONNECTION NUMBER. FILE: M19065_1BA Ch’ge.Sht.No. EQUIP. LN-25 THE LINCOLN ELECTRIC CO. TYPE 2-20-98A CONTACTOR SCHEMATIC CLEVELAND, OHIO U.S.A. 10-23-98E SUBJECT NONE SCALE SHT.
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com G-16 G-16 ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTACTOR PC BD - CODE 10100 THRU 10500 (M17621) R i i STANDARD This print is Current NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com G-17 G-17 ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTACTOR PC BD - BELOW CODE 9900 (L7535-[ ] CONTACTOR - M15428) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤...
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All manuals and user guides at all-guides.com G-18 G-18 ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS SCHEMATIC - CONTACTOR PC BD - BELOW CODE 9900 (L9185-[ ] CONTACTOR - M17139) NOTE: This diagram is for reference only. It may not be accurate for all machines covered by this manual. ¤...
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.
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Lincoln Electric discourages board level troubleshooting and repair since it may compromise the quality of the design and may result in danger to the Machine Operator or Technician.