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PAT DS350 Troubleshooting Manual

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PAT America, Inc.
Rheinmetall Elektronik
DS350 MODULAR
BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION
For
GROVE CRANE RT865 BXL
TROUBLESHOOTING MANUAL
P/N 031-300-190-047 Rev0 2/17/99

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  • Page 1 PAT America, Inc. Rheinmetall Elektronik DS350 MODULAR BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION GROVE CRANE RT865 BXL TROUBLESHOOTING MANUAL P/N 031-300-190-047 Rev0 2/17/99...
  • Page 2 NOTICE The information in this document is subject to change without notice. PAT makes no warranty of any kind with regard to this material, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose.

  • Page 3: Table Of Contents

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL TABLE OF CONTENTS GENERAL INFORMATION REFERENCE MATERIAL SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE 1. TROUBLESHOOTING 1.1 Boom Control Interface 1.2 Getting Started 1.3 Boom length percentage problem 1.4 Boom out of sequence in Automode 1.5 E83 - Outer mid and fly section are not retracted 1.6 E61 - Error in the bus extension 1.7 No tele function at all in automode 2.

  • Page 4: General Information

    Use the reference drawings in conjunction with the flowcharts to help understand the operation of the system. The PAT LMI DS 350 Modular with Boom Control Extension has been designed to provide the crane with the essential information required to operate the machine within the designed parameters.

  • Page 5: Reference Material

    Should an out of sequence condition occur, the crane operator is responsible to select manual mode to return the sections into sequence before continuing the lift. REFERENCE MATERIAL Document PAT- Part number Grove- Part number Parts & Installation Manual 031-300-150-713 9-333-103628 Operator’s Handbook...

  • Page 6: Service And Maintenance

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE Daily maintenance of the load moment indicator consists of inspecting: 1. The electrical wiring connecting the various parts of the system. If electrical wiring is damaged, it shall be replaced immediately. 2.

  • Page 7: Boom Control Interface

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.1 BOOM CONTROL INTERFACE Crane Crane interface Cable reel interface connector connector 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 8: Getting Started

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.2 GETTING STARTED This section explains how to handle a problem that may arise with the PAT DS 350 Modular LMI boom control extension. The procedures are given in flowchart format for the following sections. Start with the general flowchart below which will guide you to one of the detailed flowcharts shown in Sections 1.1 to 1.7.

  • Page 9: Boom Length Percentage Problem

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.3 BOOM LENGTH PERCENTAGE PROBLEM Start Boom length percentage problem Switch to Manual Mode and retract the boom completely against the stop block. Check the percentage indication (1%,0%,0%). Wrong? IM and/ or CM retract signal not recognized. Check proximity switch target adjustment.
  • Page 10 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Measure the voltage at terminal 25(+24V) and terminal 27 (GND) in the bus extension unit. Failure in bus extension. Check connectors, fuses and bus extension power Correct? supply. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.7 and 2.9.
  • Page 11 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Measure voltage at terminal 1or 2 (+24V) and 5 or 6 (GND) in the switch junction box. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.2 and 2.12. Correct? Measure the voltage at terminal 1 (+24V) and 5 Faulty wiring between length (GND) in the inner mid junction box.
  • Page 12 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Faulty switch wiring or Measure the IM reset switch signal at wire 2 defective switch. Replace IM (+24V)(fast-on connector) and terminal 3 (GND) in the reset proximity switch. Adjust length transducer LG321. Refer to section 2, drawing switch and target.
  • Page 13 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Measure the IM retract switch signal at wire 4 (+24V) Faulty switch. Replace IM (fast-on connector) and 3 (GND) in the length retract proximity switch. Adjust transducer LG321. Refer to section 2, switch and target.
  • Page 14 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Faulty wiring between length Measure the IM retract switch signal at terminal 39 transducer LG 321 and switch (+24V) and 27 (GND) in the bus extension. Refer to junction box. section 2, drawing 2.7 and 2.9. Check wiring.
  • Page 15 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Measure the CM retract switch signal at terminal 37 (+24V) and 27 (GND) in the bus extension. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.7 and 2.9. Faulty wiring between bus extension and length Correct? transducer LG 321.
  • Page 16 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Faulty wiring between bus Measure at CM junction box terminal 11 (+24V) and 9 extension and length (GND) . Refer to section 2, drawing 2.2 and 2.12. transducer LG 321(CM). Check wiring.
  • Page 17 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Faulty wiring between bus Measure signal at terminal X1/8 (+24V) and X1/7 extension and length (GND) in the LG 321(CM). Refer to section 2, drawing transducer LG 321(CM). Check 2.2 and 2.12. wiring.
  • Page 18 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Faulty wiring between bus Digital input defective on bus extension. Check extension and length LED's on bus extension. Contact authorized service transducer LG 321(CM). Check for the replacement procedure. wiring. 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 19: Boom Out Of Sequence In Automode

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.4 BOOM OUT OF SEQUENCE IN AUTOMODE Start Problem: In Auto Mode the boom becomes out of sequence, the warning light is on. Select manual mode. With no load suspended retract the boom completely. Disengage the boom stop block and retract the boom completely.
  • Page 20 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Failed? In manual mode retract the boom. Disengage the boom stop block to retract all section completely. Re-check the length potentiometer adjustment. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.5. Correct? Remove lid from LG321(IM length) and measure Adjust gear assembly and check O-ring supply voltage at terminal X1/1 (+24V) and X1/3 in gear wheel.
  • Page 21 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Measure the voltage at terminal X1/ 25(+24V) and terminalX1/27(GND) in the bus extension. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.9. Failure in bus extension. Check connectors, fuses and bus extension power Correct? supply.
  • Page 22 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LG 321 (IM) counter clockwise to a soft stop. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.5. Measure the voltage at terminal X1/2(1V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.3. Correct? Switch power off.
  • Page 23 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LG 321 (IM) clockwise to a soft stop (10 turns). Measure the voltage at terminal X1/2(5.6V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Correct? Switch power off. Remove wire 2 from LG 321 terminal X1/2.
  • Page 24 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LG 321 (CM) counter clockwise to a soft stop. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.5. Measure the voltage at terminal X1/2(1V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.3. Correct? Switch power off.
  • Page 25 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LG 321 (IM) clockwise to a soft stop (10 turns). Measure the voltage at terminal X1/2(5.6V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Correct? Switch power off. Remove wire 2 from LG 321 (CM) terminal X1/2.
  • Page 26 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LWG 309 counter clockwise to a soft stop. Measure the voltage at LWG 309 terminal X1/2(1V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.4. Correct? Switch power off.
  • Page 27 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Turn the length potentiometer in the LWG 309 clockwise to a soft stop (10 turns). Measure the voltage at LWG 309 terminal X1/2(5.6V) and terminal X1/3(GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.4. Switch power off.
  • Page 28 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Fault is not located in the LMI circuit. Faulty bus extension module. Follow the crane service instructions to Contact PAT- Technical Support for continue. instruction. 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 29: E83] Outer Mid And Fly Section Are Not Retracted

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.5 [E83] OUTER MID AND FLY SECTION ARE NOT RETRACTED Start Outer mid and fly section are not fully retracted. Switch to manual mode and retract the outer mid section fully. E83 ? Switch to automode and Switch to automode and retract the boom (Caution: continue normal crane...
  • Page 30 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct ? Switch to manual mode and retract the outer mid section fully. Check the OM retract proximity switch and target adjustment. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.1. Defect is not located in LMI circuit.
  • Page 31 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct ? Measure OM retract switch power supply at LG Defective bus extension. Check 321 (CM) terminal X1/11 (+24V) and X1/7 connectors, fuses and bus extension (GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.2 and 2.8 power supply.
  • Page 32 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.5 [E83] OUTER MID AND FLY SECTION ARE NOT RETRACTED Continuation Correct? Defective wiring between bus Measure signal at terminal X1/8 (+24V) and X1/7 extension and length (GND) in the LG 321(CM). Refer to section 2, drawing transducer LG 321(CM).
  • Page 33 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct? Digital input defective on bus Defective wiring between bus extension. Check LED's on bus extension and length extension. Contact authorized service transducer LG 321(CM). Check for the replacement procedure. wiring. 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 34: E61] Error In The Bus Extension

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.6 [E61] ERROR IN THE BUS EXTENSION Start Error in the bus extension Check crane power, battery voltage. Correct ? Refer to the crane service Measure the power supply at the bus extension documentation to correct the terminal X1/26(+24V) and 28(GND).
  • Page 35 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct ? Refer to section 2, drawing 2.8 and 2.9. Check the bus Switch power off. Replace the fuse. cable wiring and connections between bus extension Switch power on and check again. and central unit.

  • Page 36: No Tele Function At All In Automode

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 1.7 NO TELE FUNCTION AT ALL IN AUTOMODE Start Error: No tele-function at all in automode Remove load from hook. Make sure no other error or warning is preventing you from extending or retracting the boom.
  • Page 37 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Switch to auto mode. Start the engine.Operate the extend control. Measure the extend signal at bus extension terminal X1/29 (+24V) and X1/28 (GND). Refer to section 2, drawing 2.7 and 2.8.- 2.12. Correct ? Faulty pilot pressure switch in the tele Start the engine.Operate the retract control.
  • Page 38 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Refer to section 2, drawing 2.13 and select the boom control data display. Operate the extend control. The ramp value for the appropriate section should increase in steps from 0 to 255. Correct? Refer to section 2, drawing 2.13 and select the Faulty digital input 1 on bus...
  • Page 39 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct ? Select manual mode. Retract all sections. Switch power off. Remove wire 2 from the analog output bord terminal A104 X1/2 (IM). Switch Faulty digital input 2 on bus power on. Operate retract or extend control. Measure the electrical extension.
  • Page 40 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Continuation Defective analog output board A104 (IM). Contact authorized Correct ? service representative for replacement instructions. Re- connect wire 2 to terminal A104 X1/2. Refer to section 2, drawing 2.14 (K2,K6,K7 logic table) to check the two way valve Operate the extend control.
  • Page 41 DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL Continuation Correct ? In the bus extension: Refer to section 2, drawing 2.14 and Check fuse F2 for relay K2 (IM 2 way valve). measure the two way valve Check fuse F6 for relay K6 (CM 2 way valve). signal (>/= +20V) at terminal 1or 2 (IM Check fuse F7 for relay K7 (OM 2 way valve).

  • Page 42: Proximity Switch Location And Adjustment

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.1 DRAWING: PROXIMITY SWITCH LOCATION AND ADJUSTMENT 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 43: Rt865Bxl Boom - Lmi Hardware

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.2 DRAWING: RT 865BXL BOOM - LMI HARDWARE 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 44: Length Transducer- Inner Mid Section

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.3.1 DRAWING: LENGTH TRANSDUCER - INNER MID SECTION Slipring-assembly Length-potentiometer Gearwheel Terminal X1 To19 pin connector- connecting boom and superstructure 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 45: Length Transducer- Center Mid Section

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.3.2 DRAWING: LENGTH TRANSDUCER - CENTER MID SECTION Slipring-assembly Length-potentiometer Gearwheel Terminal X1 To19 pin connector- connecting boom and superstructure To center m id junction box D raw ing 2.3.2: LG 321- C enter m id sec tion 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 46: Length Angle Transducer- Overall Boom Length

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.4 DRAWING: LENGTH ANGLE TRANSDUCER- OVERALL LENGTH Angel sensor Slipring assembly Length potentiometer Terminal X1 To 7 pin connector - connecting boom with superstructur To boom nose junction box Drawing 2.4: Length angle transducer LWG 309 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 47: Length Transducer Adjustment

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.5 DRAWING: LENGTH TRANSDUCER ADJUSTMENT Drawing 2.5: Length transducer adjustment 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 48: Rt 865Bxl Turntable - Lmi Hardware

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.6 DRAWING: RT 865 BXL TURNTABLE - LMI HARDWARE Pressure Transducers Boom control bus extension Console Central unit Crane electric interface connection Connect the turntable hardware with the boom hardware Crane electric interface connection 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 49: Boom Control - Bus Extension

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.7 DRAWING: BOOM CONTROL - BUS EXTENSION Terminal X2 Analog output module Analog input module CPU - Module Bus - extension Relay output fuse F1 - F9 Terminal X1 Drawing 2.7: Boom control bus extension 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 50: Electric Schematic - Central Unit

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.8 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - CENTRAL UNIT To bus extension To 8 pin crane electric connector To area def. switch interface To console To piston side pressure transducer To rod side pressure transducer To 7 pin boom base connector Drawing 2.8: Electrical chematic...

  • Page 51: Electric Schematic - Bus Extension

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.9 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - BUS EXTENSION To 23 pin crane interface connector To 14 pin boom base connector To 19 pin boom base connector To central unit Drawing 2.9: Electrical Schematic - Bus extension 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 52: Electric Schematic - Turntable

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.10 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - TURNTABLE To bus extension To central unit To central unit Drawing 2.10: Electrical Schematic - Turntable 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 53: Electric Schematic - Lower

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.11 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - LOWER To length angle transducer LWG 309 To central unit Boom base connector To central unit To central unit Connector for optional lightbar To central unit Drawing 2.11: Electrical Schematic - Lower Console 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 54: Electric Schematics - Boom

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.12.1 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - BOOM To bus extension To pair of inner mid two way valve Drawing 2.12.1: Electrical Schematic - Boom 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 55: Electric Schematics - Boom

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.12.2 DRAWING: ELECTRIC SCHEMATIC - BOOM To bus extension To central unit To pairs of two-way-valve Drawing 2.12.2: Electrical Schematic - Boom 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 56: Console - Boom Control Data Display

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.13 DRAWING: CONSOLE - BOOM CONTROL DATA DISPLAY Press the two outer keys simultaniously to view the boom control data. Press again to hide the data. Drawing 2.13: Console - Boom control data display 031-300-190-047 Rev0 02/17/1999...

  • Page 57: Relay Output Logic For The Two-Way-Valves

    DS350GM - BOOM CONTROL EXTENSION RT 865BXL 2.14 DRAWING: RELAY OUTPUT LOGIC FOR TWO-WAY-VALVES Relay Designation Tele- Section Relay K2 on bus extension IM two-way-valves Relay K6 on bus extension CM two-way-valves Relay K7 on bus extension OM two-way-valves Table A out of sequence IM ext/ret CM ext/ret...

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