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IDEAL Response SE Installation & Service Manual

Wall mounted, gas fired, fanned flue combination boiler
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  • Page 2: Table Of Contents

    Condensate Drain ..........10 & 24 Electrical Connections ..........29 INTRODUCTION Electrical Supply ............. 8 The Response SE is a wall mounted, low water content, Fault Finding ..............54 balanced flue, combination condensing gas boiler. Flow Wiring Diagram ............ 32 Note.

  • Page 3: General Data

    = An appliance designed for use on 2nd Family gas, Group H only. CAUTION. To avoid the possibility of injury during the installation, servicing or cleaning of this appliance, care should be taken when handling edges of sheet steel components. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 4 DHW is drawn off. The full output from the boiler is then commissioning and fault finding. directed via the diverter valve to the calorifier to supply a maximum DHW draw-off of 10 l/min at 35 C temperature rise. BOILER WATER CIRCUIT DIAGRAMS Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 5: Air Supply

    The boiler may be fitted on a combustible wall and insulation between the wall and the boiler is not necessary, unless required by the local authority. The boiler must not be fitted outside. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 6: Flue Installation

    Any soldered joints on potable water pipework MUST NOT be made with solder containing lead. • (Positions 2-6, Table 4). Due to the terminal design, installation is possible with clearances less than those specified in BS 5440, Part 1. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 7: Water Connections

    In hard water areas treatment to prevent limescale may be WATER TREATMENT necessary. However, the use of artificially softened water is The Response SE has an aluminium heat exchanger. If water not permitted. treatment is used Caradon Plumbing Limited recommend only the...

  • Page 8: Boiler Clearances

    Dimension y Boiler only with stand- off brackets 139mm 219mm (5 ( ") ") 7/16 For side outlet flues: Raise the centre line of the hole in the wall by 5mm +4mm/100mm of flue length Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 9: Inhibitor

    Water Flow Rate and Pressure Loss Boiler size System Load 24 kW Water Flow Rate 0.51 l/s Temperature Differential Pressure available 29 kPa for system 2.9 m Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 10: Domestic Hot Water

    All pipework and fittings in the condensate drainage system MUST be made of PLASTIC - no other materials may be used. The drain outlet on the boiler is standard 22mm overflow pipe. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 11: Installation

    Detection electrode Pump inlet pipe Exp. vessel flexible hose Heat exchanger Ignition electrodes Boiler return pipe Prepiping frame Boiler flow pipe. Expansion vessel Combi. flow pipe Control panel Pump DHW inlet pipe Gas injection pipe Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 12 3-way plug 1 off Pack B Contents No. 8 x 8mm self tapping screws - 2 off Flue support cutting aid - 1 off No.10 x 2" screws - 4 off Rawlplugs - 4 off Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 13 Pack B - 1 off & " - 118") " - 118") ( 96" - 118") Pack D - 3 off For REAR outlet flue Go to Frame 11 For SIDE outlet flue Go to Frame 21 Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 14 Mark onto the wall the following: a. The 4 wall mounting plate screw positions. b. The position of the flue duct. Mark the centre of the hole as well as the circumference. Remove the template from the wall. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 15 Note. If the clearances above and below the boiler are less than the length of the pipes it will be necessary to position the pipes behind the wall mounting plate BEFORE the plate is screwed to the wall. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 16 Screw the connector into the gas cock in the correct A working gas pressure of 20mb (8" w.g) must be orientation. available at the boiler inlet, with the boiler firing at full DHW output.. Screw the complete assembly back onto the mounting frame. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 17 Measure from the groove marked 'TOP' not the larger groove. To ensure the tube is cut square, mark the flue all the way round. Cut to length, using the cardboard support aid. Remove the cardboard support and any burrs. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 18 4. After securing the flue turret to the top of the boiler slide the inner flue seal along the terminal to make contact with the wall. Note: There is no need to make good the wall. PROCEED TO FRAME 32 Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 19 The position of the flue duct. Mark the centre of the hole as well as the circumference. Note. Allow for stand-off brackets if being used. Use the table on the wall mounting template. Remove the template from the wall. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 20 Note. If the clearances above and below the boiler are less than the length of the pipes it will be necessary to position the pipes behind the wall mounting plate BEFORE the plate is screwed to the wall. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 21 3. Screw the connector into the gas cock in the correct orientation. available at the boiler inlet, with the boiler firing at full 4. Screw the complete assembly back onto the mounting frame. DHW output. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 22 Cut to length, using the cardboard support aid. Remove the cardboard support and remove any burrs. FOR FLUE LENGTHS GREATER THAN 600mm REFER TO FRAMES 34, 35 & 36 - FLUE EXTENSION DUCTS Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 23 Fix the flue support bracket to the wall, using the wall plug and wood screw. For standard installations use the short wood screw. If the stand-off option is used, secure the support bracket using the spacer bracket and long wood screw. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 24 'Polypipe' tubing. An adaptor is supplied to allow the use of Marley 'Terrain' tubing, which is slightly larger. This adaptor should be sealed to the Marley 'Terrain' tubing and to the boiler condensate drain, using a suitable plastic tube adhesive. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 25: Flue Extensions

    Flue extensions of greater length than 1m (39") should be supported with the bracket provided, suitably adjusted - refer to Frame 34. Note. Side flue shown Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 26 11. Remove the cardboard offcuts and deburr the metal edges. Res 1488 Appliances fitted with a REAR outlet flue; please refer to Frame 11 Appliances fitted with a SIDE outlet flue; please refer to Frame 21 Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 27 CH flow DHW out Gas inlet DHW adjuster DHW in CH drain CH return Diverter valve Pump CH expansion vessel Automatic air vent Flue sensing point Front elevation layout of boiler components (control panel open) Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 28 FILLING - DOMESTIC HOT WATER Fully open all DHW taps and ensure that water flows freely from them. Close all taps except the one furthest from the boiler. Turn off the DHW tap. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 29: Electrical Connections

    Note. Ensure that the lengths of the current carrying conductors are shorter than the earth conductor so that if the cable slips in its anchorage the current carrying conductors become taut before the earth conductor. Note. Room thermostat connections Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 30: External Wiring

    However, if parts of the pipework run outside the house or if the boiler will be left off for more than a day or so then a frost thermostat should be wired into the system. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 31 INSTALLATION Legend 42 PICTORIAL WIRING DIAGRAM blue black brown grey purple orange pink white yellow green/yellow Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 32: Commissioning And Testing

    3. Retighten the union and test for gas soundness. WARNING. Whilst effecting the required gas soundness test and purging air from the gas installation, open all windows and doors, extinguish naked lights and DO NOT SMOKE. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 33: Initial Lighting

    Swing the control panel into its working position. Burner ignition and flame detection (CH). Ensure that the external CH controls are calling for heat Burner ignition and flame detection (DHW) and set the switch (K) to ON. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 34 DHW flow rate until a DHW temperature of approximately 35 C rise is obtained at the tap. This corresponds to a flow rate of about 10 l/min. Turn off the DHW tap and switch OFF the electricity supply. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 35: Water Circulation System

    DHW preheat if necessary. Note. Sequence Number 4 will first show until the DHW 10. If an optional programmer kit is fitted then refer to the preheat is satisfied. instructions supplied with the kit. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 36 STANDBY mode press the RESET button. Stepnumber Temperature Max DHW temp ( 40 to 60 00 = DHW OFF 05 = DHW ON 00 = CH OFF 01 = CH ON Max CH temp ( 20 to 82 Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 37: Servicing

    Ideal Care Scheme details of which are outlined in the householder pack supplied with this boiler. 51 SERVICING SCHEDULE Light the boiler and carry out a pre-service check, noting any operational faults.

  • Page 38: Casing Removal

    Undo the securing screw. Release the 2 retaining clips. Lift to disengage the casing from the back panel and Swing the panel open to the left and disengage it from withdraw it from the boiler. the boiler. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 39: Burner Removal And Cleaning

    3. Brush off any deposits that may have collected on the burner, Check that the spark and detection leads are in ensuring that the flame ports are unobstructed. Note. Brushes good condition and renew as necessary. with metallic bristles must NOT be used. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 40: Cleaning The Heat Exchanger

    9. Turn on the gas supply at the gas service cock. 5. Refit the fan, engaging it in the bayonet fixing. Ensure that the 'O' ring seal is in place. 10. Reconnect the electrical supply. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 41: Replacement Of Components

    Remove the boiler sealing panel. Refer to Frame 54. Disconnect the flue thermostat electrical leads. Unscrew the thermostat from the side of the heat exchanger. Fit the new flue thermostat ,and re-assemble in reverse order. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 42 4. Remove the fan assembly. Refer to Frame 55. 5. Disconnect the ignition and detector leads. 6. Undo the 3 fixing screws securing the burner assembly. 7. Withdraw the burner assembly downward and out of the heat exchanger. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 43 Remove the boiler casing. Refer to Frame 53. Remove the boiler sealing panel. Refer to Frame 54. Unscrew the injector from the injection pipe. Fit the new injector, using a suitable jointing compound sparingly. Re-assemble in reverse order. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 44 4. Disconnect the electrical leads from the valve solenoids, as required. 5. Undo the securing screws as required and remove the solenoid. 6. Fit the new solenoid and re-assemble in reverse order. 7. Check the operation of the new solenoid. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 45 Compress the retaining clips and prise the switch out of the panel. Fit the new switch and re-assemble in reverse order. Ensure that the switch is the right way round and that all electrical connections are correctly remade. Check the operation of the boiler. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 46: Draining The Boiler

    Note. Set the diverter valve manual lever to the MID position to ensure maximum drainage of the pipework. Open the lowest DHW draw-off tap. 4. To refill the boiler refer to Frames 4 & 5. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 47 Open the lowest DHW draw-off tap. Pull the electrical lead off the sensor. Unscrew the sensor from the plate heat exchanger. Fit the new sensor, using a suitable jointing compound, and re- assemble in reverse order. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 48 8. Ensuring that the letter B is uppermost, fit the new valve complete with the sealing washers provided, and re-assemble in reverse order. 9. Check the operation of the new valve. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 49 10. Fit the new heat exchanger, complete with the sealing washers provided, and re-assemble in reverse order. 11. Fit the DHW sensor to the new heat exchanger, using a suitable jointing compound. 12. Check the operation of the boiler. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 50 6. Remove the socket screw from inside of the fitting and pull the valve off the connecting pipe. 7. Fit the new valve, complete with 'O' ring provided, and re-assemble in reverse order. 8. Check the operation of the new valve. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 51 Unscrew the switch from the boss in the bottom of the heat exchanger and withdraw it from the boiler. Fit the new switch, using a suitable jointing compound, and re-assemble in reverse order. 10. Check the operation of the boiler. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 52 11. Remove the pump. Refer to Frame 79. 12. Remove the water pressure switch (hidden). Refer to Frame 82. 13. Undo the 2 back retaining screws. 14. Disconnect the flow and return thermistor sensor leads. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 53 5. Fit the new self adhesive seals to the panel. 6. Re-assemble in reverse order. Note. Ensure that the boiler sealing panel is correctly seated, compressing the sealing strip to make an airtight joint. Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 54: Fault Finding

    If the boiler fails to operate, check these first. To gain access to the fuses refer to Frame 68. IMPORTANT. At the end of any fault finding, always refit the control buttons cover plate. Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 55 Fan not running / no tacho signal Fan keeps turning / no tacho signal Water pressure switch or flue thermostat failure Maximum temperature Flow temperature T too high Return temperature T too high Flow temperature T increase too fast Response SE Combi - Installation...

  • Page 56: Short List Of Parts

    Flue thermostat - ELMWOOD 138 097 Condensate trap 075 095 Boiler casing, painted white, with controls drop-down door 075 042 Control panel 075 092 Control valve solenoid - SIT 075 205 Control valve solenoid - SIT 075 206 Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 57 SHORT LIST OF PARTS 89 SHORT PARTS LIST Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 58 44. 'O' ring 45. Gasket (rubber) 46. Gasket (Cork) 54. EV1 solenoid 55. EV2 solenoid 60. 'O' ring 61. Burner gasket 70. Gas valve mounting brackets 71. Gas valve support bracket 72. Gas injection pipe Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 59 LIST OF PARTS 91 CONTROL PANEL ASSEMBLY - Exploded View Legend Gasmodul control Display board Fan speed control board 11. CH pressure gauge 12. Rocker switch 50. Control panel 58. Relay Response SE Combi - Installation...
  • Page 60 October 2000 products. The right is therefore reserved to vary 151396 A07 specification without notice. I d e a l L i m i t e d Ideal Installer/Technical Helpline: 01482 498663...

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