Pioneer DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES Service Manual

Pioneer DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES Service Manual

Multi-cd control high power cd/mp3/wma player with fm/am tuner
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MULTI-CD CONTROL HIGH POWER CD/MP3/WMA/AAC PLAYER WITH FM/AM TUNER
DEH-P5850MP
MULTI-CD CONTROL HIGH POWER CD/MP3/WMA PLAYER WITH FM/AM TUNER
DEH-P5850MPH
This service manual should be used together with the following manual(s):
Model No.
Order No.
CX-3164
CRT3583
For details, refer to "Important Check Points for Good Servicing".
PIONEER CORPORATION
PIONEER ELECTRONICS (USA) INC. P.O. Box 1760, Long Beach, CA 90801-1760, U.S.A.
PIONEER EUROPE NV Haven 1087, Keetberglaan 1, 9120 Melsele, Belgium
PIONEER ELECTRONICS ASIACENTRE PTE. LTD. 253 Alexandra Road, #04-01, Singapore 159936
PIONEER CORPORATION 2005
Mech.Module
S10.5COMP1
CD Mech. Module : Circuit Descriptions, Mech. Descriptions, Disassembly
4-1, Meguro 1-chome, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 153-8654, Japan
DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES
/XN/GS
Remarks
ORDER NO.
CRT3565
/XN/ES
K-ZZA.NOV. 2005 Printed in Japan

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  • Page 1 PIONEER CORPORATION 4-1, Meguro 1-chome, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 153-8654, Japan PIONEER ELECTRONICS (USA) INC. P.O. Box 1760, Long Beach, CA 90801-1760, U.S.A. PIONEER EUROPE NV Haven 1087, Keetberglaan 1, 9120 Melsele, Belgium PIONEER ELECTRONICS ASIACENTRE PTE. LTD. 253 Alexandra Road, #04-01, Singapore 159936 PIONEER CORPORATION 2005 K-ZZA.NOV.
  • Page 2: Safety Information

    ICs inside the unit. 3. To protect the pickup unit from electrostatic discharge during servicing, take an appropriate treatment (shorting-solder) by referring to "the DISASSEMBLY". 4. After replacing the pickup unit, be sure to check the grating. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 3 To protect products from damages or failures during transit, the shipping mode should be set or the shipping screws should be installed before shipment. Please be sure to follow this method especially if it is specified in this manual. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 4: Table Of Contents

    6.4 SYSTEM MICROCOMPUTER TEST PROGRAM ................... 53 6.5 OEL ADJUSTMENT..........................53 7. GENERAL INFORMATION ..........................54 7.1 DIAGNOSIS ............................. 54 7.1.1 DISASSEMBLY ............................. 54 7.1.2 CONNECTOR FUNCTION DESCRIPTION ..................57 7.2 IC ................................58 7.3 OPERATIONAL FLOW CHART ....................... 68 8. OPERATIONS ..............................69 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 5: Specifications

    1. SPECIFICATIONS DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 6 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 7: Exploded Views And Parts List

    22-4 Caution Card XRP7005 ••••• 22-5 Caution Card CRP1310 Bush CNV3930 Owner's Manual,Installation Manual Part No. Language XRD7103 English, Spanish, Portuguese(B) XRD7104 Traditional Chinese, Arabic XRD7105 English, Spanish, Portuguese(B),Traditional Chinese, Arabic XRD7106 English,Traditional Chinese, Arabic XRD7108 English,Traditional Chinese, Arabic DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 8: Exterior

    2.2 EXTERIOR DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 9 XXA7394 Spring CBL1512 Screw BPZ20P100FTB CNV6486 Button(AUDIO,FUNC,SW)(ES) XAC7113 Button(AUDIO,FUNC,SW)(GS) XAC7131 IC(IC1901) GP1UX30RK IC(IC301) PAL007B Button(BAND,DISP)(ES) XAC7115 Choke Coil(L901) CTH1280 Button(BAND,DISP)(GS) XAC7133 Transistor(Q650,Q911) 2SD2396 Button(EQ) XAC7116 IC(IC901) NJM2388F84 Button(1-6) XAC7117 Button(ENT) XAC7118 Button(PAUSE) XAC7119 Button(OPEN) XAC7120 Spring XBH7001 Cover XNS7128 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 10: Cd Mechanism Module

    2.3 CD MECHANISM MODULE DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 11 Bracket CND2583 CND2584 Lever CND2585 CND2586 Bracket CND2587 CND2588 Lever CND2589 Holder CNV7201 Gear CNV7207 Gear CNV7208 Gear CNV7209 Gear CNV7210 Gear CNV7211 Gear CNV7212 Rack CNV7214 CNV7216 Roller CNV7218 Gear CNV7219 Guide CNV7361 Gear CNV7595 Guide CNV7799 CNV7805 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 12: Block Diagram And Schematic Diagram

    Q822 CD CONTROLLER VD1 7.5V REGULATOR Q650 B.UP Q651 12EJ X701 ILMPW 4.00MHz DSCSNS ROT0 VDCONT VDCONT ROT1 HOME VDCONT S904 S905 S901 12EJ HOME CD3VON SWVDD S903 DSCSNS Q832 DPDT IC203 V3R3D NJM2886DL3-33 +3.3V REGULATOR KYDT BL+B CSENS DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 13: Panel Unit

    DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES only RESET CN351 MUTE IC602 REAR L S-80835CNUA-B8U Q351 NON-FAD/SW L Q353 CN352 TUNPCE2 FRONT L TUNPCE1 TUNPDI TUNPDI TUNPDO TUNPDO Q352 TUNPCK VDD REGULATOR TUNPCK Q911 Q912 SYSTEM CONTROLLER IC 601(1/2) DALMON PEG146A CN901 BACKUP SENSE B.UP FUSE B.UP...
  • Page 14: Overall Connection Diagram(Guide Page)

    CD:0.36dBs CL220SRCTS:ES CL220PGC:CN,GS PANEL UNIT For resistors and capacitors in the circuit diagrams, their resistance values or capacitance values are expressed in codes: Ex. *Resistors Code Practical value 12k ohms 10k ohms *Capacitors Code Practical value 0.01uF 101/10 100uF/10V DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 15 Therefore, when replacing, be sure to use parts of Symbol indicates a capacitor. identical designation. No differentiation is made between chip capacitors and discrete capacitors. > CD:9.65dBs FM,AM:-0.90dBs CD:10.01dBs IP-Bus:9.30dBs > 600 H > FUSE CEK1208 BACK UP FM,AM:21.1dBs CD:36.10dBs IP-Bus:36.30dBs DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 16 104:GS 104:ES,CN UNIT TUNER FM/AM DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 17 CN1901 CN901 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 18 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 19 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 20: Keyboard Unit

    3.3 KEYBOARD UNIT CN1951 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 21 KEYBOARD UNIT KEY/OEL CONTROLLER OEL UNIT DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 22: Cd Mechanism Module(Guide Page)

    3.4 CD MECHANISM MODULE(GUIDE PAGE) PICKUP UNIT(P10.5)(SERVICE) SWITCHES: CD CORE UNIT(S10.5COMP1) S901:HOME SWITCH..ON-OFF S903:DSCSNS SWITCH..ON-OFF S904:12EJ SWITCH.....ON-OFF S905:8EJ SWITCH....ON-OFF The underlined indicates the switch position. CD DRIVER M1 CXC6742 SPINDLE MOTOR M2 CXC4026 LOADING/CARRIAGE MOTOR DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 23 FOCUS SERVO LINE are expressed as : TRACKING SERVO LINE ← ← CARRIAGE SERVO LINE 0.022 R022 SPINDLE SERVO LINE CD CORE UNIT(S10.5COMP1) + 3.3 V REGULATOR CD3VON(MCKRQ) SRAMLEVEL2 ADENA SRAMLEVEL1 SRAMLEVEL0 (S904) CD CONTROLLER (S905) CN651 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 24 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 25 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 26 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 27 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 28 200 mV/div 500 mV/div ! TE 500 mV/div 8 TIN 500 mV/div CD-ROM play operation(Regular track Jump) Spindle waveform during play operation Spindle waveform during play operation (Wider) Ref.: Ref.: Ref.: REFO REFO REFO Mode: Mode: Mode: Normal Normal Normal DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 29 500 mV/div 4 LOEJ 3 12SNS 8 TIN 5 V/div 5 V/div 500 mV/div CD-DA → CD-ROM mode change(Band key) 12 cm CD Eject operation 8 cm CD Eject operation Ref.: Ref.: Ref.: REFO Mode: Mode: Mode: Normal Normal Normal DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 30 7 CIN 8 TIN 500 mV/div 1 V/div 8 TIN ! TE 500 mV/div 1 V/div 9 FIN 1 V/div CD-ROM → CD-DA mode change(Band key) Black dot(800 µm) during play Ref.: Ref.: REFO REFO Mode: Mode: Normal Normal DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 31 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 32: Pcb Connection Diagram

    For further information for WIRED respective destinations, be sure REMOTE IP-BUS to check with the schematic dia- gram. 2.Viewpoint of PCB diagrams Capacitor Connector SIDE A SIDE B P.C.Board Chip Part CN901 DSENS DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 33 SIDE A REAR OUT ANTENNA JACK CN651 CN1950 FRONT DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 34 TUNER AMP ASSY TESTIN DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 35 SIDE B DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 36: Keyboard Unit

    4.2 KEYBOARD UNIT KEYBOARD UNIT AUDIO FUNCTION S1901 SOURCE/VOL DISPLAY BAND KEYBOARD UNIT DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 37 SIDE A PAUSE CLOCK SIDE B CN1951 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 38: Cd Core Unit(S10.5Comp1)

    4.3 CD CORE UNIT(S10.5COMP1) SIDE A CD CORE UNIT(S10.5COMP1) PICKUP UNIT(P10.5)(SERVICE) CN651 REFO1 HOME CN901 LOADING /CARRIAGE MOTOR SPINDLE MOTOR IC203 IC301 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 39 SIDE B CD CORE UNIT(S10.5COMP1) 12EJ DSCSNS DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 40: Panel Unit

    4.4 PANEL UNIT SIDE A PANEL UNIT CN1901 EJECT SIDE B PANEL UNIT CN801 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 41: Electrical Parts List

    D 951 (A,42,94) Diode DAN202U Q 301 (A,144,85) Transistor DTC124EU D 981 (A,20,90) Diode HZS9L(A2) Q 351 (B,131,119) Transistor(ES) UMH3N D 982 (A,95,71) Diode DAN202U Q 352 (B,136,128) Transistor UMH3N Q 353 (B,161,128) Transistor UMH3N D 984 (A,122,83) Diode 1SS133 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 42 RS1/16S153J R 812 (B,119,29) RS1/16S102J R 351 (B,145,108) (ES) RS1/16S821J R 813 (A,73,17) RS1/16S1R0J R 352 (B,145,119) (ES) RS1/16S821J R 814 (B,108,24) RS1/16S222J R 815 (A,104,33) RS1/16S473J R 353 (B,140,122) RS1/16S821J R 354 (B,139,119) RS1/16S821J R 816 (B,112,25) RS1/16S473J DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 43 C 204 (A,77,101) CEJQ4R7M35 C 651 (A,14,55) CEJQ101M16 C 205 (A,83,75) CEJQ4R7M35 C 652 (B,87,30) CKSRYB152K50 C 206 (A,83,101) CEJQ4R7M35 C 653 (B,85,30) CKSRYB152K50 C 207 (A,89,75) CEJQ4R7M35 C 654 (B,66,35) CCSRCH470J50 C 208 (A,90,102) CEJQ4R7M35 C 658 (B,83,22) CKSRYB104K16 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 44 R 1992 (B,108,24) RS1/16S101J S 1908 (A,14,15) Push Switch CSG1133 R 1993 (B,94,29) RS1/16S101J S 1909 (A,68,6) Push Switch CSG1135 R 1994 (B,94,32) RS1/16S101J S 1910 (A,18,9) Push Switch CSG1135 R 1995 (B,63,9) RS1/16S473J S 1911 (A,156,35) Push Switch CSG1135 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 45 R 1962 (B,73,26) RS1/16S392J S 1904 (A,28,37) Push Switch CSG1112 R 1963 (B,68,31) RS1/16S393J S 1905 (A,7,22) Push Switch CSG1186 R 1980 (B,78,8) RS1/16S473J S 1906 (A,14,30) Switch CSG1108 R 1991 (B,107,22) RS1/16S101J S 1907 (A,22,22) Push Switch CSG1186 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 46 R 729 (B,20,48) RS1/16SS223J R 730 (B,20,46) RS1/16SS473J Unit Number : CWX3176 Unit Name : CD Core R 740 (A,38,59) RS1/16SS222J R 746 (A,13,38) RS1/16SS104J Unit(S10.5COMP1) R 750 (A,40,66) RS1/16SS473J R 902 (A,20,36) RS1/16SS221J MISCELLANEOUS R 905 (A,21,36) RS1/16SS221J DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 47 C 703 (B,28,42) CKSSYB103K16 C 706 (B,34,43) CKSSYB104K10 C 707 (A,36,57) CKSSYB104K10 C 714 (A,24,41) CKSSYB104K10 C 722 (B,29,45) CKSQYB475K6R3 C 903 (B,14,54) CKSSYB471K50 C 907 (B,14,62) CKSSYB103K16 Miscellaneous Parts List Pickup Unit(P10.5)(Service) CXX1942 Motor Unit(SPINDLE) CXC6742 Motor Unit(LOADING/CARRIAGE) CXC4026 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 48: Adjustment

    1k ohms in series. • The load and eject operation is not guarantied with the mechanism upside down. If the mechanism is blocked due to mistaken eject operation, reset the product or turn off and on the ACC to restore it. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 49 • When the power is turned on/off the jump mode is reset to the Single TR (91) while the gain of the RFAMP is reset to 0 dB. At the same time all the self-adjusting values shall return to the default setting. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 50: Checking The Grating After Changing The Pickup Unit

    Because of eccentricity in the disc and a slight misalignment of the clamping center the grating waveform may be seen to "wobble" ( the phase difference changes as the disc rotates). The angle specified above indicates the average angle. • Hint Reloading the disc changes the clamp position and may decrease the "wobble". DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 51 Ech → Xch 20mV/div, AC Grating waveform Fch → Ych 20mV/div, AC 0° 30° 45° 60° 75° 90° DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 52: Error Mode

    Remarks: Mechanical errors are not displayed (because a CD is turned off in these errors). Unreadable TOC does not constitute an error. An intended operation continues in this case. Upper digits of an error code are subdivided as shown below: 1x: Setup relevant errors, 3x: Search relevant errors, Ax: Other errors. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 53: System Microcomputer Test Program

    KEYBOARD UNIT(SIDE B) Digital Multi-Meter <When the OEL Unit has been replaced> 1. Use VR1970 to adjust the resistance between TP1 and TP3 to 6.2 kΩ. 2. Use VR1971 to adjust the resistance between TP2 and TP3 to 6.2 kΩ. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 54: General Information

    Grille Assy. Fig.1 Grille Assy Removing the Tuner Amp Assy (Fig.2) Remove the screw. Remove the three screws. Straighten the tabs at three locations indicated. Remove the screw and then remove the Tuner Amp Assy. Tuner Amp Assy Fig.2 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 55 Upper Frame. 3. While lifting the Carriage Mechanism, remove it from the three Dampers. Caution: When assembling, be sure to apply some alcohol to the Dampers and assemble the mechanism in a clamped state. Damper Damper Carriage Mechanism Lower Frame DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 56 Assemble the sub unit side of the Pickup, taking the plate (Chassis) in-between. When treating the leads of the Load Carriage Motor Assy, do not make them loose over the Feed Screw. Poly Washer Change Arm Pickup Lock Arm Inner Holder Feed Screw Planet Gear Pickup Rack Chassis Pickup DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 57: Connector Function Description

    7.1.2 CONNECTOR FUNCTION DESCRIPTION 1 0 A DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 58 Ground for 1.6 V digital circuits D1.GND Output of 33.8688 MHz(CLK for SDRAM) C33M DRAM cs (rcs) RA11 Output of DRAM address 11 Output of DRAM CKE (CKE) Output of DRAM ras Output of DRAM lower cas(LDQM) cas)(LDQM) cas!(UDQM) Output of DRAM upper cas(UDQM) DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 59 Output of TE Output of LD Input of PD Ground for digital circuits D.GND * UPD63763CGJ IC's marked by * are MOS type. Be careful in handling them because they are very liable to be damaged by electrostatic induction. DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 60 VD power supply control output VDCONT CD LSI serial data input CD LSI serial data output CD LSI serial clock output xwait CD LSI wait control signal input CD LSI address strobe output XASTB Address/data Bus 0 Not used DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 61 VD power supply short sense input Not used DSCSNS * PE5505A Format meaning C MOS NJM2886DL3-33 Thermal Protection Bandgap Reference CONTROL GP1UX30RK - Block Diagram - Pin Layout Limiter B.P.F Demodulato Integrator Comparator vout GND VCC GND VCC vout DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 62 D15-0 Not used ks@-^ key strobe 2-6 88-92 Not used A/D converter GND input AVSS Not used A/D converter reference voltage VREF A/D converter power supply input AVCC flbusy Not used Not used FWRST Restart signal for IC rewriting DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 63 * PEG203A Format meaning C MOS Nch open drain * PD8156A HA12241FP -BUS +BUS BIAS DRIVER OUTPUT (current) RECEIVER OUTPUT R out DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 64 Over Protector; SWITCH P-GND4 OUT4- MUTE Detection Offset OUT4+ OUT3- P-GND3 Detection Offset OUT3+ AC-GND circuit Short S-GND Protector; OUT1+ P-GND1 Detection Offset OUT1- OUT2+ STBY Thermal Detection Protector; Offset OUT2- Circuit P-GND2 Stand-by amp_vcc Reference voltage Over Protector; DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 65 Not used Not used 47-56 EVol mute EMUTE Not used 58,59 Power supply input Not used Not used 63-66 Output for dark current reduction circuit DALMON Not used tunpce@ TUNER : Chip enable output(EEPROM) TUNER : Chip enable output(PLL) TUNPCE1 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 66 Not used AVSS A/D converter GND input TUNER : Signal level input A/D converter reference voltage VREF A/D converter power supply input AVCC TUNER : Data input(PLL) TUNPDI TUNER : Data output(PLL) TUNPDO TUNER : Clock output(PLL) TUNPCK * PEG146A DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 67 22 AUDIOGND audio ground Ground of audio block 23 L ch O L channel output FM stereo “L-ch” signal output or AM audio output 24 R ch O R channel output FM stereo “R-ch” signal output or AM audio output DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 68: Operational Flow Chart

    In case of the above signal, the communication with Grille microcomputer may fail. Source keys If the time interval is not 300 msec, the oscillator operative may be defective. Source ON SYSPW←H Pin 1 Completes power-on operation. (After that, proceed to each source operation) DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 69: Operations

    8. OPERATIONS DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 70 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 71 1. Attach the holders to both sides of the front panel. Holder(CXX1645) Holder(CXX1644) 2. Replace the front panel to the unit. 3. Flip the holders into upright positions. 4. Fix the front panel to the unit using fixing screws. Fixing screw(XXX7020) Fixing screw(XXX7020) DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 72 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 73 DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...
  • Page 74 CD Mechanism Module Before shipping out the product, be sure to clean the following portions by using the prescribed cleaning tools: Portions to be cleaned Cleaning tools CD pickup lenses Cleaning liquid : GEM1004 Cleaning paper : GED-008 g p p DEH-P5850MP/XN/ES...

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