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- Page 1 5235W Thermotouch 5235W Wi-Fi Enabled Thermostat Installation & User Guide...
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Page 2: Introduction
Introduction Thank you for buying our Thermotouch 5235W The thermostat features an adaptive function that thermostat. We hope you will enjoy the ease of automatically changes heating start times to ensure use offered by the touchscreen and intuitively that the required temperature has been reached designed interface. -
Page 3: Table Of Contents
Table of Contents Introduction App Control User Settings Menu Overview Wi-Fi Connection Child Lock Connect to App What’s in the box? Display Brightness Before you start Remove from App Screen Saver Installing your Thermostat Using the App Energy Tariff Installation Location Controlling your thermostat Eco Function Maximum Distance... -
Page 4: Menu Overview
Menu Overview Menu Overview Main Menu User Settings Engineer Settings Menu Heating Schedule Child Lock Adaptive Function Home Screen Display Brightness Open Window Energy Use in Scheduled Operation User Settings Screen Saver Sensor Application ManualO ther... Energy Tariff Sensor Type Engineer Settings Eco Function Sensor Calibration... -
Page 5: What's In The Box
What’s in the box? Check you have got everything: • 5235W Thermostat • Mounting Plate • Fixing Bracket • 3m Sensor Probe • 2m Sensor Conduit • Fixing Screws You will also need: • Electrical Screwdriver • Wire Strippers • Electrical Test Meter www.thermogroup.com.au... -
Page 6: Before You Start
Before you start Your thermostat should be: • Installed 1.2 - 1.5m up from the floor • On an internal wall • Outside any wet zones (IP21) • Installed on an RCD protected circuit • Away from drafts or heat influencers •... -
Page 7: Installing Your Thermostat
Installing your thermostat 1. Switch off main power You will be installing your thermostat as part of a high voltage mains electrical circuit. To ensure your safety and to protect the thermostat, switch off the mains power before you start the installation. CAUTION Must be installed on an RCD circuit... -
Page 8: Installation Location
Installing your thermostat 2. Installation Location At this stage it its likely that an RCD protected electric underfloor heating system has been installed and a standard electrical plate is already in place. The underfloor heating cold tail should be pulled up through the back plate, and the sensor probe installed (in the conduit provided) within the wall cavity or pre chased channel in a solid wall. -
Page 9: Maximum Distance
Installing your thermostat 3. Maximum Distance Your thermostat can be installed up to 50m away from the underfloor heating system it is controlling, provided that the floor sensor is used to control the temperature. Underfloor heating cold tails and floor sensor probes can be extended up to 50m. 50m max. -
Page 10: Wiring Diagram
Installing your thermostat 4. Wiring Diagram Connect the thermostat to the Underfloor Heating cold tail, power supply and floor temperature sensor. The floor temperature sensor is not polarity sensitive. 220-240 AC Supply Neutral 220-240 AC Supply Live Underfloor Heating Live (Load L) Underfloor Heating Neutral (Load N) Do not connect Sensor connections (No polarity) -
Page 11: Fix Mounting Plate
Installing your thermostat 5. Fix Mounting Plate Fix your thermostat in position onto the electrical plate in either the vertical or horizontal position. www.thermogroup.com.au 1300 368 631... - Page 12 Installing your thermostat 6. Fix Mounting Plate Continued To allow for the screen to be clipped into position, ensure the screen is switched off using the switch on the side of the unit. 1300 368 631 www.thermogroup.com.au...
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Page 13: Switching On Your System
Installing your thermostat 7. Switching on your system It is important that all adhesives and grouts are dry and fully cured before you switch on your underfloor heating. Most adhesives take between 7 to 10 days to cure. Follow manufacturer guidelines. The temperature of your underfloor heating should be increased gradually to avoid thermal shock in the floor. -
Page 14: Startup Wizard 1/2
Startup Wizard 1/2 When the system has been installed and turned on for the first time, or after you have performed a factory reset, you must set the region, Language, Date, Time and Floor Type. The thermostat will automatically guide you through the process. Region –... - Page 15 Startup Wizard 2/2 Time – set the current time. Tap the parameter you want to change. The selected parameter will enlarge and be underlined in black. Use the “Up Arrow” or “Down Arrow” button to set the hours and minutes. Confirm the date with the “Right Arrow”.
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Page 16: General Operation
General Operation The thermostat has an ON/OFF switch on the left side of the thermostat. Alternatively, the thermostat is intuitively operated via the high-resolution colour touchscreen, which is used to navigate through the menus and to change the settings. The thermostat is also Wi-Fi enabled meaning you can schedule the heating, turn the heating on and off or boost the heating from an app on your smartphone. -
Page 17: Accept/Back/Cancel
Accept/Back/Cancel Whenever you change a parameter setting, you must tap the “Accept” button for the thermostat to acknowledge the change. “Accept” is shown on the screen as “ ”. “Back” is shown on the screen as a button marked with an arrow pointing to the left. -
Page 18: Icons 1/2
Icons 1/2 Icon: Icon Meaning Icon: Icon Meaning Icon: Icon Meaning Scheduled Date Heating Schedule Operation Format Manual Energy Use Time Mode Comfort User Time Mode Settings Format Boost Daylight Child Lock Mode Saving Time Display Frost Unit Brightness Protection Holiday Screen Language... - Page 19 Icons 2/2 Icon: Icon Meaning Icon: Icon Meaning Icon: Icon Meaning Server Engineer Settings Factory Reset Connection No server Adaptive Function EN50559 Connection WiFi Error Open window Connection Message Sensor No WiFi Accept Application Connection Sensor Type Cancel Floor Sensor Next change in event/function at Calibration the given time...
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Page 20: Operating Modes
Operating Modes The thermostat offers seven different modes of temperature control, either from the “Other” menu on the home screen or from the home screen directly: 1. Scheduled Operation 2. Frost Protect 3. Manual 4. Holiday 5. Comfort 6. Eco (this function must be enabled in the “User Settings” menu) 7. -
Page 21: Scheduled Operation
Scheduled Operation The system will operate in Scheduled Operation unless you choose to override the scheduled events. During Scheduled Operation, the temperature is controlled automatically according to the programmed heating schedule – see “Heating Schedule”. During Scheduled Operation, “Manual” and “Other” modes are accessible from the home screen. If the Eco function is enabled, “Eco”... -
Page 22: Manual
Manual Manual allows you to override Scheduled Operation and maintain a specified temperature around the clock. 1. From the Scheduled Operation home screen, tap the “Manual” button to access manual override. Note: If Eco is enabled, “Manual” will be found in the “Other” menu. You can use “Manual” to override the programmed event schedule. -
Page 23: Comfort 1/2
Comfort 1/2 You can use Comfort mode on special occasions when you want to override an event during Scheduled operation, e.g. for a party or when you want to stay up late. You can manually set a comfort temperature, which the thermostat will maintain for a chosen period of time (from 1 to 23 hours) before returning to Scheduled Operation. - Page 24 Comfort 2/2 Comfort home screen: Comfort Indication of Comfort mode. 24.5 ° 11:00 Tap here to access the menus. Icon indicating the current operating mode (Feet = Comfort). Current target/setpoint temperature (if shown in red, heating is being provided). The time at which the thermostat will return to Scheduled Operation.
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Page 25: Boost
Boost Boost mode is accessible from the “Other” menu. In Boost mode, the underfloor heating is constantly activated for one hour. After one hour, the thermostat returns to Scheduled Operation. From the Scheduled Operation home screen, tap the “Other” button to access the alternative operating modes. -
Page 26: Frost Protection
Frost Protection Frost Protection mode is used when heating is not needed but the temperature must be kept above freezing point until changed manually. Tap the “Other” button on the home screen. Tap the “Frost Protect” button. A confirmation screen will then be displayed briefly before the thermostat automatically enters the Frost Protect home screen. -
Page 27: Holiday 1/2
Holiday 1/2 Holiday mode allows you to set the heating of your home to a minimum while you are away on holiday, thus saving energy and money. You must set the date you leave to go on holiday and the date you return. - Page 28 Holiday 2/2 Holiday home screen: Holiday Indication of Holiday mode. 01-09-2014 Tap here to access the menus. 05-01-2014 Icon indicating the current operating mode (Suitcase = Holiday). The date on which the thermostat entered Holiday mode and the date on which the thermostat will return to Scheduled Operation. Mon 11:15 Tap here to quit Holiday mode and return to Scheduled Operation.
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Page 29: Eco Function
Eco Function Eco Function reduces the energy spent on unnecessary heating if you leave the room/house during a scheduled heating event. When the Eco Function is enabled, the thermostat enters an energy-saving state, in which the lowest setback temperature in the event schedule is used as the temperature setpoint. -
Page 30: Thermostat
Thermostat Setup - Main Menu The main menu consists of four options which can be used to Heating Schedule configure your thermostat. Energy Use The main menu is accessed via the “Menu” button on User Settings the home screen. Engineer Settings •... -
Page 31: Adaptive Function
Adaptive Function With this feature enabled the thermostat will calculate the time required to heat up and reach the desired temperature set point and will turn on earlier to ensure the floor is at the desired temperature at the start of a scheduled heating event. -
Page 32: Heating Schedule 1/3
Heating Schedule 1/3 The heating schedule allows you to control temperature automatically according to a programmed schedule of your choice. The thermostat comes with a pre-programmed schedule for easy and economic heating control, see Preset Schedule under Factory Settings. The heating schedule can easily be changed in the following way: Tap the “Menu”... - Page 33 Heating Schedule 2/3 An event is a scheduled time of day when the thermostat automatically changes the temperature setting. You can choose between a four or six event schedule. Choose the setting that best fits your daily rhythm. With a four event schedule, you can set four different events during work days and two different events during home days.
- Page 34 Heating Schedule 3/3 You can now setup your personalised heating schedule. 11. Tap the “Event Schedule” button to set up the target/setpoint temperature and start time for each event. 12. Tap the temperature if you want to change it, then tap the “Up Arrow” or “Down Arrow”...
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Page 35: Energy Use
Energy Use The “Energy Use” button allows you to obtain out energy usage data for your underfloor heating system. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “Energy Use” button to access schedule options. You can choose between four different readouts: •... -
Page 36: User Settings
User Settings This menu allows you to set various parameters. The menu Child Lock contains the following options: Display Brightness Screen Saver • Child Lock • Display Brightness Energy Tariff • Screen Saver Eco Function • Energy Tariff Date • Eco Function Date Format •... -
Page 37: Child Lock
Child Lock The child lock prevents children and others from tampering with the thermostat and changing any of its settings. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Tap the “Child lock”... -
Page 38: Display Brightness
Display Brightness This option allows you to change the brightness of the display. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Display Brightness” button. Select one of the five levels of brightness using the “Up Arrow”... -
Page 39: Screen Saver
Screen Saver This option allows you to select the information to be Date, Time shown on the idle home screen you can choose from: • Date, Time. • Date, Time and Temperature (measured). • Screen Off. Date, Time, Temp. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings”... -
Page 40: Energy Tariff 1/2
Energy Tariff 1/2 This option allows you to enter the various data used to calculate energy use. The “Energy Use” function uses this information to calculate electricity consumption and the cost of heating for a given period of time. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings”... - Page 41 Energy Tariff 2/2 Load a) If you do not want the thermostat to automatically detect the load of your underfloor heating system, tap the “OFF/ON” button to “OFF”, otherwise leave it at “ON”. b) Confirm with “ ”. c) If Auto Detection is set to “OFF”, tap the “Up Arrow” or “Down Arrow” button to set the kW load of your underfloor heating system.
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Page 42: Eco Function
Eco Function Eco Function reduces the energy spent on unnecessary heating if you leave the room/house during a scheduled heating event. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Tap the “Eco Function”... -
Page 43: Date
Date This setting allows you to change the date, which is sometimes shown on the home screen and is used for functions such as “Holiday” mode and “Daylight Saving Time”. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Date”... -
Page 44: Date Format
Date Format Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Date Format” button. Tap the date format you prefer: • DD/MM/YYYY (default) • MM/DD/YYYY Confirm your choice with “... -
Page 45: Time
Time This option allows you to change the time, which is used by the thermostat to control heating schedule events during Scheduled Operation. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Time”... -
Page 46: Time Format
Time Format Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Time Format” button. Tap the time format you prefer: • 24 Hours • 12 Hours AM/PM (default) Confirm your choice with “... -
Page 47: Daylight Saving
Daylight Saving Time When set to ON, the “Daylight Saving Time” function will automatically adjust the thermostat clock to the daylight saving time for the “Region” chosen in the “Startup Wizard”. Note! Only regions within North America and Europe are supported. Tap the “Menu”... -
Page 48: Unit
Unit This setting allows you to select your preferred temperature unit of measure. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Unit” button. Tap the unit you prefer: •... -
Page 49: Language
Language This option allows you to change the language used on the screen. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Language” button. Tap the language you prefer: •... -
Page 50: Information
Information This setting provides a read-out containing the following information: • Application version • Unit ID • Sensor temperatures Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “User Settings” button to access the various user settings. Scroll down and tap the “Information” button. Use the “Down Arrow”... -
Page 51: Engineering
Engineering Settings This menu contains all the parameters that must be set by the Adaptive Function engineer during thermostat installation or service. The menu contains the following options: Open Window • Adaptive Function Sensor Application • Open Window • Sensor Application Sensor Type •... -
Page 52: Open Window
Open Window This option allows you to enable the “Open Window” function. Open window function is turned on as default. The thermostat can detect an open window by registering a rapid drop in temperature. With the function enabled, the thermostat shuts off the heating for 30 minutes if an open window is detected. -
Page 53: Sensor Application
Sensor Application This option allows you to choose which sensor is used to control the heating system. • Floor (default): With this setting, the floor sensor controls the heating system. • Room/Floor Limit (advanced): With this setting, the room sensor controls the heating system subject to maximum and minimum limits for floor temperature. -
Page 54: Sensor Type
Sensor Type This option allows you to choose the type of floor sensor used with the thermostat. You can therefore choose to use an existing sensor with the thermostat, e.g. in renovation projects. Choose the sensor actually used from the list. The sensor supplied with the thermostat is an 12k sensor listed as: “Factory”. -
Page 55: Floor Sensor
Floor Sensor Calibration This option allows you to calibrate the floor sensor providing this has been installed. You should only calibrate the sensor if the temperature reading differs from the actual floor temperature. Note that changes in the floor sensor characteristics may damage certain floors. You can calibrate the sensor to +/- 10°C in increments of 0.5°C in the following way: Tap the “Menu”... -
Page 56: Room Sensor
Room Sensor Calibration This option allows you to calibrate the room sensor. You should only calibrate the sensor if the temperature reading differs from the actual room temperature. You can calibrate the sensor to +/- 10°C in increments of 0.5°C in the following way: Tap the “Menu”... -
Page 57: Temperature Scale
Temperature Scale 1/3 This function allows you to set the minimum and maximum temperature to which the thermostat can be set – as well as the minimum and maximum limits for floor temperature. Operating temperatures: • Minimum Temperature Scale can be set between 5°C and 15°C. •... - Page 58 Temperature Scale 2/3 • Minimum Temp. Limit – use this setting to maintain comfort temperature on tile floors. Can be set between 5°C and 25°C. • Maximum Temp. Limit – use this setting to protect wooden floors from excessive temperatures. Can be set between 10°C and 40°C. NOTE: If the maximum limit for floor temperature is set too high, sensitive floor types may be permanently damaged.
- Page 59 Temperature Scale 3/3 11. You can now set a Minimum Temp. Limit. 12. Use the “Up Arrow” or “Down Arrow” button to change the Minimum Temp. Limit. 13. Confirm the setting with “ ”. 14. You can now set a Maximum Temp. Limit. 15.
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Page 60: Factory Reset
Factory Reset This option allows you to restore the thermostat to factory settings. Note! This action cannot be undone, and all your personal settings will be lost. Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Scroll down and tap the “Engineer Settings” button. Tap the “Factory Reset”... -
Page 61: En50559 1/2
EN50559 1/2 This thermostat complies with EN 50559 (VDE 0705-559) for electrical floor heating. The regulation applies to electrical floor heating, with a maximum floor weight of 4 kN/m². To ensure that hotspots due to unintentionally covering up the surface are avoided, the heating function can be time-limited as per EN/DIN. - Page 62 EN50559 2/2 Equation to calculate number of minutes that could be entered in the EN50559 menu - when an average heating effect is desired: Average wanted heating effect pr. m * 60 min. Floor heating element effect pr. m Note! If the result of the equation is negative, then nothing should be entered.
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Page 63: App Control
App Control These settings allow you to set up your thermostat for connection Heating Schedule to your wireless network, through which the thermostat is able to connect to our thermostat cloud server. Server connectivity enables Energy Use you to control your thermostat remotely using the OJ Microline® User Settings SWATT app from a smartphone or tablet with Internet connection. -
Page 64: Wi-Fi Connection 1/4
Wi-Fi Connection 1/4 You can set up a Wi-Fi connection in the following way: WiFi Connection Wi-Fi Connection Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Connect to app Connect to App Then tap the “App Control” button to access the app setup Remove from App Remove from app options. - Page 65 Wi-Fi Connection 2/4 Manual connection: The “Searching networks” screen is displayed while the thermostat is searching for available networks. The detected networks are then displayed in a list. Tap the name of the desired network on the list. If you cannot see the name of your network on the list, you have to enter the network name manually in the following way: •...
- Page 66 Wi-Fi Connection 3/4 Tips on using the keyboard: Tap the “Character set” button to the left to choose between different character sets, e.g. lowercase letters, uppercase letters, numbers and special characters. Tap the “Up Arrow” and “Down Arrow” buttons to scroll up and down in the selected character set.
- Page 67 Wi-Fi Connection 4/4 If problems persist, or if anything unexpected happens during setup of the Wi-Fi connection, please consult the “Troubleshooting” section in this manual. You can disconnect a Wi-Fi connection in the following way: Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Then tap the “App Control”...
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Page 68: Connect To App
Connect to App Install the OJ Microline® SWATT app on your smart device. Wi-Fi Connection WiFi Connection When you have successfully set up a Wi-Fi connection on your Connect to app Connect to App thermostat, you can connect it to OJ Microline® SWATT app in Remove from app Remove from App the following way:... - Page 69 Connect to App You can now name your thermostat and heating zone. Your thermostat name helps you identify the exact thermostat such as kitchen. The zone allows you to place the thermostat in a zone and then add addition thermostats to that zone such as living zone which includes thermostats in the hallway, kitchen and living room.
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Page 70: Remove From App
Remove from App You can remove your thermostat from your app in the following way: WiFi Connection Wi-Fi Connection Tap the “Menu” button on the home screen. Connect to App Connect to app Then tap the “App Control” button to access the app Remove from App Remove from app setup options. -
Page 71: Using The App
Using the App Adding additional Thermostats You can add additional Thermostats immediately after adding your first Thermostat by tapping the “Add more thermostats” button at the bottom of the screen. Alternatively you can add additional thermostats at any time by entering the menu located in the top right hand corner, select manage zones and select to either add a new zone (E.G. -
Page 72: Controlling Your Thermostat
Using the App Controlling your thermostat To control the mode of your thermostat, tap the required zone from the home screen of your app. You can then adjust all of the thermostats on that zone or you can select each thermostat individually. This will allow you to select between manual mode, boost mode, holiday mode and eco mode or return to your heating schedule. -
Page 73: Setting Up Your Schedule
Using the App Setting up your schedule To set your heating schedule select the menu button in the top right- hand corner and select set up schedule. If you have multiple zones, the various zones will be displayed; select your desired zone. Depending on your daily settings you will have either 4 or 6 events showing each day. - Page 74 Using the App Setting up your schedule continued When setting your schedule begin with event 1 and tap the start time to adjust this. Select your desired on time. Select the temperature to set your desired temperature. Move on to set event 2, this would normally be considered the off time.
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Page 75: Setting Holiday Mode
Using the App Setting Holiday Mode To enter holiday mode select the menu button in the top right hand corner and select the holiday field. Tap the start date to select your holiday start date and press OK to confirm. Follow this same process to set the holiday end date. -
Page 76: Information & Energy Use
Using the App Thermostat Information You can view a range of your thermostat settings on the app in the Thermostat Information tab. Select the menu in the top right hand corner, select your zone and select Thermostat Information. This will display information regarding your thermostat. Open Window, Adaptive function and sensor settings all need to be adjusted via the thermostat settings. -
Page 77: Adding Multiple Users
Using the App Adding multiple users to the thermostat Each individual thermostat can only be connected to one account at any given time. If multiple people want to be able to able to control the same thermostats i.e. Multiple family members controlling the same thermostats, they will need to log in under the same account that controls the thermostats. -
Page 78: Factory Settings
Factory Settings Preset Temperatures: Operating mode Factory preset temperature Scheduled Operation See Preset Schedule* Manual Override 23°C* Comfort Mode 23°C* Boost Mode Max °C ≤ Maximum Limit Holiday Mode 5°C Frost Protection 5°C *You can change the settings for these temperatures to suit your needs – see Operating Modes in this manual. Preset Schedule Event Name Event Start... -
Page 79: Detailed Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting 1/6 Error messages: If a fault or error occurs, the thermostat will display one of the following error messages: E0: Internal failure. The thermostat is defective. Contact your heating engineer. The thermostat must be replaced. E1: Internal sensor defective or short-circuited. Contact your heating engineer. The thermostat must be replaced. - Page 80 Troubleshooting 2/6 Why does a specific function not work in a specific mode? Not all functions are available in all modes or make sense in all modes. Mode vs Scheduled Frost Manual Boost Comfort Holiday Function Operation Protection Open Window available available available...
- Page 81 Troubleshooting 3/6 I can’t connect to my Wi-Fi network Possible causes Solution Try connecting another device, such as your mobile phone, to your wireless network. Stand next to your Wi-Fi Thermostat, and access your phone’s wireless network settings. If the wireless network signal cannot be detected by your phone, or it is very weak, other devices may also have trouble connecting to the network Insufficient Wi-Fi signal from that area of your home.
- Page 82 Troubleshooting 4/6 I can’t connect to my Wi-Fi network Possible causes Solution The Wi-Fi router has to match the technical specifications supported by the Thermostat Wi-Fi-module: Your Wi-Fi router does • Wireless standard: 802.11 b/g/n not match the technical • Security Mechanisms: WPA-PSK/WP A2-PSK requirements supported •...
- Page 83 Troubleshooting 5/6 I can’t connect to my Wi-Fi network Possible causes Solution The problem might be with your router (even if your other wireless devices are still connected). A simple restart of the router will usually resolve such problems. Maybe your Wi-Fi router While most routers simply have to be unplugged and then plugged back into their requires a restart/reboot power source to restart them, you should refer to your router’s documentation...
- Page 84 Troubleshooting 6/6 I can’t connect to my Wi-Fi network Possible causes Solution Show in Home screen Black icon: Connected to server Grey icon: Not connected to server Not connected to Wi-Fi router No icon displayed: No Wi-Fi configuration 1300 368 631 www.thermogroup.com.au...
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Page 85: Technical Information
Underfloor Heating Neutral (Load N) X. Do not connect Sensor connections (no polarity) Sensor connection (no polarity) BOX CONTENTS TECHNICAL DATA 1 x 5235W Thermostat 1 x 3m Sensor probe Supply voltage 220-240V 50/60Hz 1 x Mounting Plate 1 x 2m Sensor Conduit... -
Page 86: Smarthome Connectivity
Service and Support Thermogroup PO Box 822 Leeton NSW 2705 AUSTRALIA Phone: 1300 368 631 Technical Line: 1300 989 464 www.thermogroup.com.au sales@thermogroup.com.au Watch the video guide on our website www.thermogroup.com.au...
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